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Smart Playlists in iTunes 9 can now be more than just (A and B) or (A or B or C) to build a playlist. Now the rules can be combined and nested. In addition to the plus and minus buttons, there's a new three-dot (ellipsis-like) button to generate the nested rules. For example, A and (B or C) was previously not possible.

In iTunes 9, you can now do this. First add rule A and set the top "Match" criteria to All. After you have rule A done, click on the three-dot button to get a lower level rule, add rule B and set its applicability pop-up to Any. Finally, click the plus sign and add rule C. This will create the logical structure of A and (B or C). You can get even more fancy and click the three-dot button again, and add a D or E conditional, giving you a final rule structure of A and (B or C and (D or E)).

The iTunes 9 help is silent about this new feature, but it's quite powerful.
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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: MurphyM on Sep 11, '09 08:14:53AM

Nice feature, great hint. But I always want more. I think I'll still need more than one playlist to create a "weighted playlist" - like 80% stuff I've rated high and 20% stuff I haven't rated combined into one smart playlist.

I'm pretty good with logic and loops and conditional statements, but my head was fogging up a little looking at this new smart playlist interface....




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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: sayler on Sep 11, '09 10:04:40AM

You could do this by making 2 lists, A (80 songs/megabytes/whatever) having at least 4 stars, list B (20 songs/megabytes/...) and C = any of A or B.



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: MurphyM on Sep 11, '09 12:59:38PM

Yeah, that's what I said. Despite the improvements I still need more than one list for the goal.



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: alternapop on Sep 16, '09 07:30:05PM

"thanks for nothing"... lol



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: piyayo on Sep 11, '09 09:23:17AM

Definetely a welcome feature.

You can also now duplicate playlists, smart or otherwise. Control click on playlist to duplicate. I don't think this was in itunes 8.



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: obley on Sep 11, '09 11:37:26AM

This is great! I've wanted this feature for a long time. If only I could now select full albums based on a smart list.

I'm trying to make a list of full albums that appear in a smart list (where any track has not been played in x weeks).

Have to stick with my apple script I suppose.



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iTunes 9 created "Classical Music" playlist to demonstrate?
Authored by: Peter Kappesser on Sep 11, '09 12:07:24PM

iTunes 9 apparently created a "Classical Music" smart playlist in my library which appears to demonstrate this feature. Media Kind is (music OR music video) AND genre is (Classical OR Klassiek OR Classique OR Klassik OR Classica OR クラシック OR Clásica). Weird.



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: Solarusdude on Sep 11, '09 01:23:44PM

This is an awesome feature. My approach to making complex smart playlists in the past was to make intermediate smart playlists and have my usable smart playlists make reference to those.



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Nested Smart Playlists
Authored by: bankshot on Sep 11, '09 06:35:16PM

Right. The ability to specify another Smart Playlist as one of the criteria has existed for years, and has effectively allowed arbitrarily complex logic through the use of multiple referenced playlists. In fact, when Smart Playlists first debuted in iTunes, I sent feedback to Apple suggesting that they add "Playlist" as a criterion for just this reason. I argued that this would be the most elegant solution, keeping the interface uncluttered while allowing advanced users like myself to get the complex logic they want. I was thrilled when they actually did it (no idea if my suggestion had anything to do with getting the feature).

So I'm a bit surprised that Apple has now gone the way of cluttering up the interface. Since most user comments I'm seeing around the web indicate that people didn't realize they could do it the other way before, perhaps that means Apple just got tired of people asking for complex logic because it wasn't entirely obvious how to do it.



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: spfolly on Sep 11, '09 03:20:21PM

This certainly is a welcome feature for iTunes, but I do wish Apple would standardize on a consistent interface for their Smart (lists/folders/albums). Why can't Finder, Mail and iPhoto all share the same user interface as well?



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Create complex Smart Playlists in iTunes 9
Authored by: alternapop on Sep 16, '09 07:29:13PM

"thanks for nothing"... lol



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