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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9 Apps
When I installed iTunes 9, I pressed the green zoom button, expecting to get the ultra-small iTunes player window. But this time it didn't come out that way, it just made the window much larger.

So I tried some modifier keys, and found that Option-clicking the zoom button now creates the mini player window. (A standard click on the zoom button will return it to normal size.)

[robg adds: In iTunes 8, you could also use the Window » Zoom menu to activate the mini player, which could be very confusing for a new iTunes user ('zoom' and 'really small window' don't usually go together). In iTunes 9, there's a new menu item for the mini player, View » Switch to Mini Player (Shift-Command-M), which is a much better solution.

As before, you can also drag the lower right corner of the mini player's window to remove the song display area, making for a very small controller-only window.]
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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: tatilsever on Sep 10, '09 07:45:53AM

I really liked that "green button for mini view and back" feature and used it very often. Activating iTunes then going through a menu is not as practical. I guess option clicking is not that bad, but I wish that feature stayed as is even though it was not consistent with most other apps.

By the way, I believe the more intuitive "View -> Mini Player" is how the menu has been named for a while in Windows version of iTunes.



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: pbeaudet on Sep 10, '09 10:06:23AM

I, too, used the green button to mini size iTunes and liked it. Option-green is OK, but requires two hands.

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So long stupid green button action, you won't be missed
Authored by: atomb on Sep 10, '09 08:15:27AM

Thank god they fixed this! This annoyed me to no end when I just wanted to expand the window to view all the columns and It would only switch to the mini player that I never used. This change alone is worth updating for!



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So long stupid green button action, you won't be missed
Authored by: everkleer80 on Sep 10, '09 04:36:34PM

I second this... when I hit the button, I expect it to behave like every other Mac app! It is quite frustrating when I intuitively click the button expecting it to make the window bigger and it instead shrinks it down! I know other people find the mini player useful, but I personally don't like it; if I wan't to quickly control iTunes, I use the media keys on my keyboard - if I go to the iTunes app, it's because I want to select a song (or do some other more complicated action)! I think option-clicking or using the menu is the way it should have always been.



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: JaxMyers on Sep 10, '09 08:39:31AM
Regular clicking on the "green dot" in iTunes doesn't seem to function properly for me. In Safari for example, if the window is too small, clicking the green dot makes it larger. In iTunes, clicking the green dot now just sort of makes my iTunes window shift down and to the right (overlapping the dock). No matter whether the window is large or small, clicking the green dot just shifts the entire iTUnes window into my dock. Is that how it is supposed to function? If so it's not very useful.

Check out the screen capture video I made to see what I mean...
http://www.filefactory.com/file/ah7g63d/n/iTunesGreen_mov

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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: MJCube on Sep 10, '09 09:10:36PM
The concept of the zoom button is that it makes the window either (a) full screen, or (b) just large enough to accommodate its full content. Whether it's (a) or (b) depends on the app; in iTunes 9, and the Finder, it's (b).

Back on the original 512×342 Mac screen I used to resize Finder windows painstakingly by hand to get (b). In System 7, to my delight, they added a zoom box (in the upper right corner) that did it automatically. Gradually the zoom button appeared in more apps, until it was carried over to OS X as standard in all resizable windows.

Now what should happen if you've just clicked the green button and you click it again? In OS X it toggles between "full" (a or b) and the last manual resize/position. This is better than the old System where your careful window positioning could be wiped out with one click. But this toggling can be confusing in a (b)-style app if you've made the window bigger than the content, and you're expecting it to get bigger. Also, if you've moved the window mostly off screen to get it out of the way of something (as I'm seeing more and more inept users do lately), hitting the green button twice will put it right back where it was – which may not look good, but that's the design.

By the way, this change in iTunes 9 merely reverses the behavior of previous versions. We used to have to Option-click to get a real zoom. This is definitely aimed at standardizing the behavior.

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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: gjw on Sep 16, '09 03:00:07PM

The function of that button is probably one of the more commonly misunderstood elements of the Mac UI. A lot of people think of it, or even call it, the "maximize" button but what it really is, is the "zoom" button. The official behavior of the control is to toggle the window between two positions/sizes. The first is "whatever the user has established by dragging." The second is "whatever the application designer decided was the 'natural' size for the window given the nature of the window and its content." That "natural" size needn't be full-screen, and often that's not appropriate.

iTunes, of course, deviated from that until version 9. Apple's UI guidelines have explicitly acknowledged that deviations are not inherently wrong. They are guidelines, not mandates to be slavishly followed at all turns. What's inherently wrong is gratuitous deviation. I don't believe the prior behavior of iTunes was gratuitous. I think it was a useful behavior and the "correction" is a net loss for the majority of users.



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: rab777hp on Sep 10, '09 10:05:06AM

How many people submitted this hint lol?
I did it pretty fast after the release, people must have been super quick on that one!



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: Gleddit on Sep 10, '09 12:33:21PM

How many more features that have become ingrained in my DNA am I going to lose so that the Mac can pander to Windows users?

Surely this didn't need changing?

I liked clicking the Green button, and I remembered the short cut, now I have to remember another one!

And why can't I have a shopping cart and now have to have a soppy wish list :(

Not a big fan of 9 so far.

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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: vsilves on Sep 10, '09 08:41:45PM

It was annoying me too...until I figured out that Option+Click on the green minimize orb switches to the miniplayer in 10.6. I like Option click a lot better than Shift-Command-M.



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: TheMarksman on Sep 11, '09 08:39:43AM

The problem of course is that when iTunes is not the front-most application and you option-click the green button it HIDES the front-most app. Hardly acceptable and certainly not an improvement in usability, unless you just sit with iTunes maximizing and minimizing the player and don't actually use any other apps. 8-|



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not quite Marksman...
Authored by: fursonice on Sep 11, '09 04:21:45PM

OPT+click is NOT necessary when expanding FROM floating mini player with other app window frontmost. that is: expanding "floating" mini player only takes a single mouse click. thus, the current [other] active app does NOT hide.

OPT+click is ONLY needed to go TO mini player.



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: MJCube on Sep 11, '09 09:49:27AM
I found a workaround: Add the Option key after pressing the mouse button. That makes it work as before. But, unlike the red close button, it still brings the window to the front, which I don't want.

I have decided I don't like this change after all, because it introduces another inconsistency: The green button on the mini player switches the window back with a regular click; no Option key needed.

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please clarify
Authored by: fursonice on Sep 11, '09 04:26:54PM

i do not understand your first paragraph.

in your second paragraph; "back" to what state?

read my 'Not quite Marksman' reply to the The Marksman (above), then explain your to me, please?



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Clarification and wish
Authored by: MJCube on Sep 20, '09 09:43:17PM
Sorry it took me so long to see your post. Clarifications:

1. TheMarksman and I were used to being able to click iTunes' green button with another app in front in order to both bring iTunes forward and switch to the mini player, all with one click. My workaround addresses his specific complaint: Press the mouse on the green button and hold it, then add the Option key, then let go the mouse, then let go the Option key.* This makes it work as it used to, and as you say it's necessary only in the one direction.

2. By "back" I meant expanding from the mini player back to the regular window.

It might have been clearer if I had replied directly to TheMarksman, above, but I also wanted to post the 2nd paragraph generally. What I really always wanted is for the green button not to bring iTunes forward at all, but just zoom the window in the background, the way the red button closes the window without bringing it forward. This would be useful especially when iTunes is set to float the mini player on top of other windows.

* (This 4-step click is similar to a technique I described in a comment to this hint.)

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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: honem on Sep 12, '09 07:02:07AM

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this work around but....

You can use the Keyboard & Mouse preference pane to remap any key board shortcuts in OS X . You just need to get the exact menu name for the command you need correct

The key combo for the iTunes mini player window is no different.

The menu commands are "Switch to Mini Player" and "Switch from Mini Player".

I use Control-M for both :)



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How to get the miniature player window in iTunes 9
Authored by: slyguy on Sep 23, '09 01:01:07PM

This behaviour seems to have been reverted with iTunes 9.0.1.



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