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This is not really Mac-specific, but still a good idea. I like two things: sharing and encryption. But you can't have both with wi-fi. Either you share it or you encrypt the OTA transmissions with WPA.

My compromise, which works for anyone in an apartment building is simple. Name your network like this:
Bring beer to [apt number] for Password
It's a nice way to get to know your neighbors, gets you free beer (pro tip: you can substitute other items for beer), and lets you be generous with your wi-fi while giving you some added level of security from the WPA encryption.

[robg adds: I can think of both upsides and downsides to this idea; it will be interesting to read what others think of it.]
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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: marksch on Sep 16, '09 07:55:02AM

Burglars get free MacBook Pro at [apt nr] :-D

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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: jcbeckman on Sep 16, '09 08:28:23AM

"Use it while you can before my ISP pulls my plug"



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: kiltbear on Sep 16, '09 09:21:39AM

One of the nice things about Speakeasy.net was that they encouraged you to share. They would even bill your neighbor for you, if you set up an arrangement to split the costs.



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What about Fon
Authored by: stantonio on Sep 16, '09 12:10:35PM
There's also FON its similar to speakeasy by sounds of it and plus in labs section they got software for mac/linux to turn your mac into a Fonera router http://labs.fon.com/

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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: Felix on Sep 16, '09 02:18:57PM

Always nice to have an accessible free network available. When I'm sitting by my pool, a neighbor's unsecured wireless network is stronger than my own and quite fast as well. So I've been known to join up as long as I'm not doing anything where I'm transmitting passwords.

I suppose I should try to find out who the owner is and ask if that open network is intentional...but the convenience factor outweighs the question. ;-)



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I don't have to choose between the two
Authored by: dkiechle on Sep 16, '09 03:20:55PM

I live in France and subscribe to the SFR/Neuf Telecom Internet, telephony, and HD TV ADSL service. When I set up the router which has both wired and wireless access, I can choose whether in addition to the encrypted traffic my family and I use, I want to be generous and set up a WiFi Hotspot so that other people can access the Internet through my infrastructure. This publishes a second network with a generic name. If I choose this option, people within range of my WiFi network can simply connect to it without supplying a password -- and without even knowing whose hotspot they are using.

By the way, in the States we are being ripped off. The service I mentioned above costs me 30 euros a month (incl. tax) and it includes all the equipment (such as the HD TV decoder). It lets me make free phone calls to every fixed line in Europe, to fixed lines in most Asia/Pacific countries (among which Japan and Australia), as well as cell phones and fixed lines in the US and Canada. With the current exchange rate, it's about $45 per month, but in reality it's less than that (my income does not depend on the dollar and euro exchange rate). And Internet is fast: I get anywhere between 15 and 20 mbps. I have a place back home in North Carolina, and there's no deal I found that even comes close to this type of value. Oh, and best of all: I don't pay any phone bill any longer as I am not a customer of the telephone company, yet I kept the number I had when I had a fixed Telco line. They do get some stuff right over here.

Daniel



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I don't have to choose between the two
Authored by: rhowell on Sep 16, '09 08:40:43PM

I think the hint was about free beer.



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I don't have to choose between the two
Authored by: vindu on Sep 17, '09 08:05:27AM

I think the hint was about free internet.



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: ascanio on Sep 16, '09 10:57:04PM

Problem is, if one of your free customers enjoys pedopornography the police will come after you. You will not be able to proof that it was someone else, since the link and IP are yours.



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: tatilsever on Sep 17, '09 12:37:07PM

Ahh... The cries of "Think of the children" echoes through the halls once again. The greatest generation of WWII giving way to a society scared of every stranger...

Shared network + no pictures on your own computer should equal acquittal, more or less, no? Last I checked they needed to prove your guilt, you don't have to prove your innocence.



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: ascanio on Sep 17, '09 01:17:06PM

Good luck!



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: tedw on Sep 17, '09 01:21:39PM
well, that's the way it's supposed to work, but my sense is that if the police decide you're guilty, they're going to push the issue and you'll end up having to prove that all the gallons of circumstantial evidence they drudge up against you doesn't amount to anything. The whole 'innocent until proven guilty' thing is a it of a pipe dream in modern law.

That being said, though, if the cops have gotten to the point where their tracing some illegal activity through the ISP, then they already have a lot of information that will put you in the clear (in fact, by that point they probably already know who the guilty party is, and are just looking to tie the knots), so it's really not a worry.

as to the more difficult question of whether you want to give some stranger the opportunity to do something potentially illegal or immoral using your connection... well, half an hour a week looking at server logs and blocking objectionable websites or perpetrator's machines should resolve any moral issues.

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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: palahala on Sep 17, '09 02:21:36PM

Agreed. It will be easier (though still not easy) to convince a judge about the insecurity of your network when there's simply no such security at all. When someone hacks into your WPA secured network, then how to even start trying to explain you're innocent...?

But, that easy for me to say, not living in France or the UK...



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Safely and socially share a wireless network
Authored by: paulbrainerd on Sep 18, '09 04:00:59PM

I've been reading Rob's hints for years and this is great. It goes outside the boundaries of what he usually addresses in his hints. I'm glad you posted it Rob, because it's clever. I have my own ISP and I can afford it and really don't want to share it with anyone else. However, if I was a young person, just out of college and pinching pennies....... sure I would. Sounds like fun...... hope you make some interesting new friends. God knows we need it in a society that doesn't even really know their neighbors.



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