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Earlier today, Apple announced that Snow Leopard will be available on Friday, August 28th. So that's when we'll start running Snow Leopard hints, in their own category (as with 10.4 and 10.5). When submitting hints on Snow Leopard, it will help me if you note that it's a Snow Leopard hint somewhere in the hint or title -- just include 10.6 somewhere and I'll know to code it when we run it.

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And will it eat us alive?
Authored by: fyngyrz on Aug 24, '09 03:08:31PM

TWIMC:

Considering that even minor updates to Leopard have introduced severe, long term bugs (such as 10.5.7 destroying the OS's ability to comprehend HDTVs via HDMI), I find myself just a little too skeptical to consider being an early adopter of Snow Leopard.

It would be very useful to see hints that describe problems, not just solutions, with this particular release. IE, "Warning: application/driver/feature X does not work under 10.6.x." Workarounds too, if possible, of course.

Even aside from bugs, I find myself really wondering where that six gigs of space came from. Has any functionality been tossed?

For instance, will PPC executables, drivers and prefs panes still be emulated transparently? Will old Appleware (such as Appleworks v6) continue to work? What about older drivers such as scanner drivers from third parties, like the Epson Scan app/driver combo? What about virtualization apps like Parallels Desktop?

Minor OS updates carry with them, generally anyway, the assurance that your stuff should keep working, or at least, it is understood that such is Apple's intent. Snow Leopard, however, is a complete rewrite with a considerable change in footprint, and with regard to keeping my operating environment from going up in a mushroom cloud, I think caution is called for.

Perhaps I sound like a whiner, but I actually work all day, most days, at my mac pro and introducing serious instability and/or incompatibility is about as welcome at my desk as an advanced case of herpes.

Mac OS Hints would be an excellent place to keep track of this, because the community is *far* and away more knowledgeable here than anywhere else public I am aware of.

Thanks for your consideration.


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And will it eat us alive?
Authored by: dotmike on Aug 24, '09 04:13:42PM

I predict a few upgrade gotchas, though not an overwhelming number (unless the media beats them up).

PowerPC apps WILL continue to run. By default, the PPC to Intel code translator - Rosetta - is not installed. However, when such an app is first run, Snow Leopard offers to do a download install. This is only 2MB, so not a great burden.

After that, all PowerPC based apps will run as before.

As I understand it, the majority of the space saving comes from only installing printer drivers for local and network detected printers, removing redundant fat binary code (Snow Leopard will only run on Intel Macs, so there is little use for its apps to contain fat binaries), plus optimizations to make core apps leaner and meaner.

Language support will still include the dozen or so languages which few of us speak, so there is still a good reason to customize the install options to save extra space.

The main areas I predict will give trouble will be app combinations that require kernel extension support, such as 3G modems, application enhancers, including Safari plugins, and old drivers.

I also predict Mac OS X Hints will be busy over the next few weeks!



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Snow Leopard's coming soon!
Authored by: muffin9129 on Aug 24, '09 03:56:52PM
I cannot wait, I love lepord it is a great addition to the existing ones. This one will be even better I am sure, now I just have to figure out how to use it. Product Reviews

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Annnnnd here's #1:
Authored by: fyngyrz on Aug 24, '09 04:13:31PM
"Apple has discontinued support for legacy Palm OS devices in Mac OS X Snow Leopard's iSync 3.1.0"

[stares glumly at our two Palm T|X's]

Now the question is, will Palm's old desktop software still work?

Sigh.

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Annnnnd here's #1:
Authored by: robogobo on Aug 25, '09 02:45:03AM

yes, if it ever worked, it will still work. I suggest switching to iCal and Missing Sync, in any case.



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Snow Leopard's coming soon!
Authored by: dotmike on Aug 24, '09 04:15:17PM

I predict a few upgrade gotchas, though not an overwhelming number (unless the media beats them up).

PowerPC apps WILL continue to run. By default, the PPC to Intel code translator - Rosetta - is not installed. However, when such an app is first run, Snow Leopard offers to do a download install. This is only 2MB, so not a great burden.

After that, all PowerPC based apps will run as before.

As I understand it, the majority of the space saving comes from only installing printer drivers for local and network detected printers, removing redundant fat binary code (Snow Leopard will only run on Intel Macs, so there is little use for its apps to contain fat binaries), plus optimizations to make core apps leaner and meaner.

Language support will still include the dozen or so languages which few of us speak, so there is still a good reason to customize the install options to save extra space.

The main areas I predict will give trouble will be app combinations that require kernel extension support, such as 3G modems, application enhancers, including Safari plugins, and old drivers.

I also predict Mac OS X Hints will be busy over the next few weeks!



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Snow Leopard's coming soon!
Authored by: fyngyrz on Aug 24, '09 08:53:22PM

Download install is just fine with me -- beats losing all that software!


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Snow Leopard's coming soon!
Authored by: magick47 on Aug 25, '09 12:30:38PM

Does anyone know if this will cause me to reinstall my Win XP partition via Boot Camp?



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Snow Leopard's coming soon!
Authored by: BrentT on Aug 25, '09 06:14:59PM

Has anyone heard at what time Snow Leopard goes on sale? Some of the recent OS releases were at 6 pm. If there is no time listed in the press release can I assume it be for sale when the store opens?



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Annnnnd here's #2:
Authored by: fyngyrz on Aug 26, '09 10:35:21AM

Adobe drops support for CS3 under Snow Leopard (or in other words, upgrade to CS4 or eat dirt, suckers.) Does this mean CS3 won't run under SL? I have no idea, but it sure doesn't sound encouraging.



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Caution was the right answer.
Authored by: fyngyrz on Aug 31, '09 12:16:56AM
See this site:

http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

...they totally screwed the pooch. I have *many* of the apps on that page that fail under Snow Leopard. And I certainly am not buying new versions to replace versions that work fine now under 10.5.

Not going to be upgrading under these conditions. Either they fix Snow Leopard so current software works, or 10.5 is end of the road. There's no point at all in saving 6 gigs if the upshot is you broke a large percentage of all the software out there.

I've thought since they announced it that this was far too ambitious a task for a company that can't get minor upgrades out the door working properly. I was right.

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Call a downgrade what it is.
Authored by: bezbiz on Sep 22, '09 12:18:34PM

fyi world: FreeHand on a PPC Mac with Leopard still beats the pants off Illustrator on any hardware with any OS. CS4 isn't 64-bit so the AI bloatware isn't going to see any speed boost from Snow Leopard. That plus Adobe's lack of CS3 support means that all of us giving them money are getting suckered. Read more about how giant software companies don't care what you think here: http://www.freefreehand.org/
Good luck everyone.



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