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If you like working with full-screen windows, you might want to try Right Zoom, a nice little freeware which modifies the behavior of the green button on OS X windows. Once installed, clicking the green button will always expand a window to full screen size.

Right Zoom runs in the background without a dock icon, and as far I can tell, uses few resources. This older hint introduced shortcuts for doing this using the keyboard, but I didn't see anything for changing the behavior of the actual green button.

[robg adds: I haven't tested this app, but given that "how can I make the green button fully expand windows?" is one of the most-common email inquiries I receive, I thought it was worth sharing.]
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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: sredlums on Mar 13, '09 07:57:03AM

Can I say freekin' finally!? :-)

Ever since making the switch, I have had problems with the 'green-button-behaviour'.
At first i was just used to 'the Windows-way', and wanted that behaviour back.
After a long time I started getting used to not working full-screen (helped by the fact that I bought a larger display).
But though I understand the logic behind the way the green button works, I still dont fully agree. When I want to copy things from one window to another, I work with Expos (with the hotcorner set up it is very easy) or with Command-Tab. Also, even though the screen should be set to the optimal screen size needed for the content at that moment, it just never sets it up to the size I want/need.
I will certainly try this out!



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: Alrescha on Mar 13, '09 09:21:40AM

It's funny how different people react. When I first encountered the green button in Safari so many years ago, my reaction was "oh wow, an intelligent zoom button!". I then checked and was disappointed that Safari was about the only application that had one.

A.
(who thinks that the green button in Safari already does 'the right thing')



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Green button poll
Authored by: MJCube on Mar 13, '09 12:35:12PM
For me zooming to show all content is more often useful. (Before the Finder did that starting in System 7, I used to obsessively resize Finder windows by hand to fit the exact icon layout. Every pixel counted in 512x342.) But zooming to full screen is also needed sometimes. I think I recall Option-click on the zoom button doing that in some app in Classic MacOS. Now for Preview and music apps particularly I have macros to manually zoom to full screen with mouse drags.

I would like to see the behavior of the green button standardized to zoom full screen with Option-click. I think it's very hard for developers to predict when a user might find it useful.

Bizarrely, in Safari 4 beta, I find that Option-click on the green button currently zooms the window behind the one you click!

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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: frgough on Mar 13, '09 01:18:33PM

You've been conditioned to work full screen because of the fact that Windows ties the menu to the application or document window. Which means you have to spread your window as wide as possible to get all your menu selections, usually with the result that you have gobs of wasted space on either side, or you're less efficient because your eye has to track large horizontal distances (there's a reason printed material is set in two or more columns above a certain page size).

I recommend you try resizing your windows to a width your eyes feel is comfortable and let your windows overlap. I think you'll find after a week or two, you'll find you can work longer with less eye strain, and also feel more "in control" of your environment because you'll have windows from other apps in the background, being picked up by your peripheral vision, thus giving you a sense of "location" regarding where you are in relation to your other programs.

Just some friendly advice from a Mac user who went to Windows because OS 7 sucked and a Quadra 660 with 8 MB of RAM was a joke running it, and who came back because the grape G3/400 iMac running OS 9 was wicked fast and wicked cool.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: hamarkus on Mar 13, '09 05:04:44PM

While occasionally there are apps which don't the 'optimal' thing when pressing the zoom button (hardwired by me to ctrl-Z-cmd), I much prefer the Mac behaviour. A lot of apps benefit from full-screen (eg, library-based ones like Aperture), but crtl-Z-cmd, ahem zoom, already maximises those.
Maybe my preference is because I have such a good visual memory but a horrible one for non-visual things, I always need to keep my open windows visible, otherwise I forget about and loose track of them. And when I need to work in two applications in parallel I need to keep both windows visible, otherwise I forget what I just typed or read in other one.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: ohtinsel on Mar 13, '09 08:35:03AM

I think I'll wait to install this given the meta tag for the site is "Download: Perfect Keylogger + free Lite Key Logger" until a bunch of you do. :)

Mike



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: tabuny on Mar 13, '09 08:48:00AM

I am definitely going to hold off installing this since this software company's main product is key-logging spy software.

You can't just install any freeware app you happen to find...



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: matters on Mar 13, '09 09:58:51AM

Warning: Right Zoom makes ⌘E perform the zoom. This made merging layers in Photoshop with a hotkey impossible. I uninstalled it because of this. I'm sure it replaces other hotkeys too.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: bcometa on Mar 13, '09 10:59:57AM
from included pdf manual:

If you would like to add the same zoom button behaviour to any new application,
just edit Options.plist file inside program's bundle and add your application name(s)
there (you can see the exact name in the first menu item of your application, which
is displayed in bold font). Then restart the program.

You can also disable a hotkey or choose a new key instead of default Cmd + E (in
a range A-Z with Command, Ctrl, Shift, Option or their mixes). Plist file can be
edited with TextEdit or any other text editor, like free Plist Editor from Apple Xcode
Tools, or third-party editor like
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/plisteditpro.html

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Go back to the old way?
Authored by: pete on Mar 13, '09 01:19:03PM

I tried this, slightly misunderstanding what it did. So I tossed it - that was apparently all one had to do to stop this behaviour. But all Finder windows continue to zoom to full screen. Why can't the zoom button work like eons ago. I used to love the way original system function was to zoom to show new content. If you added a file to a closed folder, when you opened it, it re-sized to show all content. I want that back.

What is the secret Terminal command to make folders zoom open a bit bigger, instead of full screen. I now hate that with a passion.



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Go back to the old way?
Authored by: palahala on Mar 13, '09 02:21:30PM

> But all Finder windows continue to zoom to full screen.

There's a change that actually the non-zoom state has been set to be larger than the zoom state. If true, then: click the zoom button to get your full screen, and then simply resize that to the format you'd like for non-zoomed windows.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: charlesbouldin on Mar 13, '09 01:22:34PM

Gawd. This should be called "Wrong Zoom" since it enables the brain dead Windows "maximize" behavior.

Zoom means "enlarge to show all content".

Windows Maximize means "enlarge the current window to the full screen size even if that window then contains lots of useless white space and covers up everything else on the screen".

The Windows Maximize is really a BAD implementation of what the Mac does with "hide others".

I'd love an app that would make the Windows Maximize work like the Mac; I can't imagine why any Mac user would ever want the Windows behavior on a Mac.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: clh on Mar 13, '09 09:00:08PM
I can't imagine why any Mac user would ever want the Windows behavior on a Mac.
One reason - to reduce visual clutter. Occasionally I'd like to have everything else just "go away" so I can focus on the single task at hand. Command-Option-H (Hide Others) is a possibility, but I seldom remember it. Option-GreenButton would be a good idea, IMO. The current behavior of the green button violates the Principle of Least Surprise (again IMO).

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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: robogobo on Mar 14, '09 05:31:40AM
I suggest trying Think from Freeverse
http://freeverse.com/apps/app/?id=7013

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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: yofal on Mar 15, '09 09:24:24AM
Deskshade is also brilliant for thisit simply covers over your entire desktop with your desktop picture (you can toggle this behaviour with your own key command). When you need to see files on the desktop just engage expos to reveal everything *under* the picture. Brilliant.

http://macrabbit.com/deskshade/



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: NovaScotian on Mar 13, '09 05:22:46PM

Doesn't understand dual screens -- always expands the window to full size on the menu bar screen no matter where it was to begin with.



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WrongZoom
Authored by: spicyj on Mar 14, '09 12:13:23AM
Well, I don't trust freaky keylogger sites any more than you guys do, so I made my own, called WrongZoom. And it's open source.

Please try it out at http://github.com/spicyj/wrongzoom/tree/master, but don't kill me if it blows up your computer.

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Instead you could use megazoomer
Authored by: tice on Mar 14, '09 03:03:43AM
With megazoomer you can make a real full screen from any window.

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Instead you could use megazoomer
Authored by: robogobo on Mar 14, '09 05:35:24AM

Can we get some feedback on this, particularly using SIMBL? Seems like it could cause problems/slowdowns.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: Waikikamukau on Mar 14, '09 04:28:14PM

I use windows at work and can't stand the maximise feature (excel being the exception) I couldn't imagine bringing that 'functionality' to my Mac at home.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: dandj on Mar 15, '09 06:57:31AM

I've been using megazoomer for several years across several OSX upgrades with no apparent problems, except it doesn't work in the Finder.

The only slight annoyance is that you loose visibility of the title bar, menu bar and dock when zoomed, but the hovering the mouse brings up the menu bar, and Command-Return always unzooms.



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Make the green button set a window to full screen size
Authored by: rbrockerhoff on Mar 26, '09 03:12:23PM
If I may link to my own solution for maximizing: http://www.brockerhoff.net/klicko which also suppresses click-through.

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How about
Authored by: forbetaorworse on Apr 29, '09 12:42:13PM

just holding option when you click the green button? That's what I usually do. Am I thinking of the wrong thing?



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