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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac iPod
The newest generation of iPods requires iTunes 8 or higher. iTunes 8 requires Windows XP service pack 2 or higher, or MacOSX 10.4.9 or higher. So what do you do if you have an older Mac which can not run, or otherwise is not running OS X 10.4.9 or later? Or perhaps you just don't want to upgrade your entire OS just to use a new iPod. Here is one possible solution...

Since Apple writes software that supports very old Windows operating systems from six or more years ago, but does not support its own Mac OS systems from just three or so years ago, the answer is to run Virtual PC on your older Mac, and run Windows XP service pack 2 or higher on it. There, thanks to Windows, you can install iTunes 8 with no problems. You'll have to transfer your library over to the windows side, and you'll have to launch Virtual PC every time you want to update your iPod -- but at least you can use a new generation iPod on an older Mac.

Sad, but it works.
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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: justicart on Oct 10, '08 07:50:05AM

Its funny that the you don't want to upgrade your operating system just for an ipod, yet you would install a whole new operating system just for you ipod.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: Unsoluble on Oct 10, '08 07:53:32AM

Hmm... instead of moving your library over to the Windows side, couldn't you put it in a directory that's shared between the two, and access it from both? I guess maybe the older version of iTunes on the Mac side might not be able to open the library at that point, though... but at least you wouldn't have to have the files sequestered away inside the PC partition?



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: macavenger on Oct 10, '08 08:47:40AM

Just a little quibble: it's not that Apple supports "really old" versions of windows while not supporting much newer versions of its own OS, it's that Apple only supports one previous release of either operating system. It's not Apple's choice that Microsoft never updates :)

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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: Dr. T on Oct 10, '08 10:35:50AM

There is no good reason for the new iPods to be restricted to iTunes 8, and there is no good reason why a modern iPod cannot work with an old version of iTunes running on OS 9. Apple could say, "To get the best experience with our new iPods, iTunes 8 is required." while still allowing the new iPods to work with earlier iTunes versions. For most of us, iPods are just song players: they don't need Genius playlists, color video, calendar and contact synchronizing, games, etc.

Apple computers are known for their longevity (when I donated my 1983 512kE Mac in 2003, it still worked perfectly), but Apple ignores that fact when it comes to iPods. Apple uses iPods as drivers of new computer sales and unnecessarily restricts their ability to connect to different versions of iTunes. That approach might get Apple a few more sales, but at the cost of annoying some loyal customers.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: ctuft on Oct 10, '08 10:02:26PM
The 512ke was introduced in 1986, but I see your point. I also understand the business decision by Apple, but I'd rather see them "trust" their loyal users to upgrade because of new feature benefits rather than iPod incompatibility. Ahhh the good 'ole days:

http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=512ke

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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: frgough on Oct 13, '08 08:03:38AM

Bunk. You have no idea of the inner workings of the new iPod software, so your statement is nothing more than whining. You don't want to upgrade your machine or your OS? Fair enough. Quit whining because the rest of the world doesn't accommodate your decision.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: Anonymous on Oct 13, '08 01:25:54PM

He might be uninformed, but so are you.

It's actually quite reasonable to want to use a newer iPod with an older Mac. If only to see which is the faster computer...



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: frgough on Oct 13, '08 01:47:15PM

It is not reasonable to demand the rest of the world accommodate you, but it is a common human attitude.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: Dr. T on Oct 10, '08 11:22:04AM

There is no good reason for the new iPods to be restricted to iTunes 8, and there is no good reason why a modern iPod cannot work with an old version of iTunes running on OS 9. Apple could say, "To get the best experience with our new iPods, iTunes 8 is required." while still allowing the new iPods to work with earlier iTunes versions. For most of us, iPods are just song players: they don't need Genius playlists, color video, calendar and contact synchronizing, games, etc.

Apple computers are known for their longevity (when I donated my 1983 512kE Mac in 2003, it still worked perfectly), but Apple ignores that fact when it comes to iPods. Apple uses iPods as drivers of new computer sales and unnecessarily restricts their ability to connect to different versions of iTunes. That approach might get Apple a few more sales, but at the cost of annoying some loyal customers.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: Korich on Oct 10, '08 11:06:24AM

You are crazzzzzzzyy %)

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MORE EFFICIENT WAY!
Authored by: Girrelephants on Oct 10, '08 06:08:15PM
This is not the best idea, and is very inconvenient. If anyone is familiar with the core system of Mac OS X you probably would have remembered that you can easily bypass such a simple check by iTunes by just changing the version tag... Here is all you need to know.

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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: akuma-x on Oct 11, '08 03:37:20AM

OK smarty pants, if software is your main problem thats easy just update your OS dude! Worst case, buy an external HDD and installed the newer OS X on that if you do not want to get rid of the the old OS for one reason or another.

But the real question is, how to get past the hardware limitations that Apple has put on the newer iPods? Now they no longer allow for using Firewire and are strictly USB 2.0. SO if you have a perfectly good 17" widescreen G4 sunflower iMac with only firewire and USB 1 ports your screwed.
As far as I know there is no way to ad a USB 2.0 port to that, unless someone knows something I don't.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: flammable on Oct 11, '08 04:01:44AM

If you're using an old Power Mac tower, you can add a USB 2.0 PCI card.



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How to use a new iPod with an old Mac
Authored by: spaceMan on Nov 03, '08 12:37:30PM
Depending on how old, you might also consider an alternative freeware/donationware program called Floola - it works with Mac OS X 10.3.9 and later, as well as Windows 98 thru Vista, plus Linux. It's quite a capable alternative... visit the website http://Floola.com for more details.

It is much less overhead than Virtual PC and other options mentioned in the comments above, but as noted, it all depends on how 'old' you mean to go back.

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How old a Mac are you talking about ?
Authored by: ygor on Apr 05, '10 07:24:15AM

You can run Tiger (10.4.11) on a G3 with enough memory. I have run it on 333 MHz fruity-iMacs and I have an old "Pismo" PowerBook that chugs along for me.
Anything older than that will not run Mac OS X at all.



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