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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together iOS devices
I was really sick of POP GMail and the iPhone not just working. I found several types of hints online, and none would really work for my situation. I use POP on GMail so that I can get mail on my Mac and leave a copy on GMail's server for archive and search purposes, which I do endlessly. The subtle implication here is that I have about 2,500 messsages in there.

So I set up the iPhone and was all excited when it just took my accounts from iTunes and set them up. But I noticed one thing: even if I had Recent on, for some reason, my Mac and my iPhone would race to download a message and if one got it, sometimes the other did, and sometimes it didn't. I confirmed this to happen to other people via many furious and frazzled searches waaaay past my bedtime.

Another thing I found was that I'm not a super great typer on the iPhone yet, and there were some messages I'd want to read on the iPhone but respond to on my Mac. In short, for a lot of reasons, it wouldn't bother me to have messages on my GMail, on my Mac via Mail, and on my iPhone.

Further, even if I got some messages to actually find their way to the iPhone, I could read them okay, but when I deleted them, the iPhone politely asked me if I would like to load the next two billion -- I'm not exaggerating, it really said that -- messages. I found this to be a documented problem and, frankly, I was disgusted. Well, I figured out away for everyone to just get along:
  1. Set up a new account on GMail. For this, I just added a "1" to the end of my existing GMmail account. Make sure you have POP enabled.
  2. Make your current GMail forward to that address.
  3. Add a new account on the iPhone, but click Other instead of GMail when setting it up. Now enter in your new GMail account info, but on the outgoing server, put in smtp.gmail.com with your old GMail account.
This way, you will receive an email any time one pops into your GMail account on your iPhone and on your Mac (provided you already had your Mac setup how you wanted it). Also, when you respond to an email, it will appear to come from your regular GMail account since you used that outgoing server. Now everyone can play happily together!
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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: Loren on Mar 25, '08 08:26:39AM

Doesn't Gmail support IMAP now? Wouldn't that solve your issues?



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: Shawn Parr on Mar 25, '08 08:41:22AM
I use POP on GMail so that I can get mail on my Mac and leave a copy on GMail's server for archive and search purposes, which I do endlessly.

As stated above, Gmail now supports IMAP. The whole point of IMAP is to do what you are trying to do. Keep multiple clients synced to a server, with mail still stored on the server, and every client showing the same messages in the same folders, regardless of when or where you have checked them from.

Go into your Gmail settings, make sure IMAP access is turned on, then add IMAP accounts in Mail.app and the iPhone. I've been doing this ever since Gmail added IMAP and it works very well. No extra accounts needed.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: pwinn on Mar 25, '08 09:01:38AM

Great tip -- for September 2007.

Since late October 2007, Gmail has supported IMAP, eliminating all of this nonsense. There is no reason whatsoever to do anything like this now. None.

Please, switch to IMAP, and perhaps someone can delete this "hint" as well.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: cpragman on Mar 25, '08 09:32:49AM

I agree with the other posters, use IMAP instead.

If you insist on using POP, another way to eliminate the race condition between apple mail and GMail that is easier is to modify the mail server settings in Apple Mail. In the advanced settings, you can choose to leave "messages on the server" for a specific period of time. That will ensure that GMail has an opportunity to grab a copy of the messages too.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: ipearx on Mar 25, '08 01:32:39PM

Sorry Gmail completely ignores this setting, and always leaves mail on the server.

To download messages again, you are meant to add "recent:" to the front of your pop username, and it will force the mail app to download the last 30 days again.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: cpragman on Mar 27, '08 05:25:36AM

GMail may ignore this setting, but it works for Apple Mail, which is all that really matters. Apple Mail only needs to leave the mail on the server for a few extra minutes to resolve the race condition and give GMail a chance to grab it's copy too.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: alblue on Mar 25, '08 09:44:28AM

For goodeness sake, I hope no-one reading this site will follow the advice of this post. Use IMAP - that's what it's for, not POP which is meant for single computers only. Can someone please remove this hint?



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: Izzard on Mar 25, '08 10:07:56AM

Unfortunately this hint needs to be removed or rated 0, since Apple Mail and iPhone both support IMAP and therefor can be continually synchronized with your Gmail account.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: mike3k on Mar 25, '08 10:46:14AM

Don't bother. Use IMAP instead - that's exactly what IMAP is designed to do.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: ljharb on Mar 25, '08 11:29:28AM

I echo everyone else's comment. This isn't the mid-90s, POP is garbage since everybody wants to use multiple computers and/or multiple locations. If for some reason you live in the boonies, and only own/use one computer, and never go anywhere - then use POP. Otherwise, welcome to IMAP and the 2000s.



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: ipearx on Mar 25, '08 02:04:59PM

There's nothing wrong with this hint, this method is useful then you can set up filters specific to your iphone account.

POP does have it's advantages, although Google Mail pop works a bit differently to normal.
For a start it never removes anything off the server once loaded, instead it flags things as being downloaded already, and you have to add "recent:" to the front of your pop username so it downloads the last 30 days of email again.

Basically if you have more than one computer, leave the main master computer without "recent:" and all others add the "recent:" to the front of your pop username.

If you're not using Gmail, the best way to use pop on multiple computers is to set them all up to "leave mail on the server" permanently, except for 1 master computer that deletes mail off the server after 30 days.

The advantage of POP is it downloads all mail completely, which is a good backup, you're not reliant on the server at all.

Google Mail also has the advantage over normal POP setups that if you send through the google SMTP servers all your sent mail is saved as well.



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Use both
Authored by: Anonymous on Mar 25, '08 02:42:58PM

As people correctly point out, this is *exactly* what IMAP solves, but, I do like using POP3 as it's quicker (no waiting for messages to download when I click them, or move them, or mark them as read, or save a draft.. It's only a second or so, but its still annoying)

Since having to wait a second to open an email isn't so big a problem on a phone, I would use POP3 on my computer, and IMAP to receive emails on the phone..

That way you aren't cluttering up poor GMail's servers with two copies of the same message, still get the localy downloaded POP3-messages on the computer, and can read emails on your phone without hiding them from the computer



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Make iPhone, Apple Mail, and GMail POP work together
Authored by: georgl on Apr 04, '08 04:34:11AM

@ mr_dbr: did you manage to do that?
- using imap on the iphone
- using pop on your mac/mail

That would be ideal, since I like pop on my mac, because it doesn't do this endless syncing etc.

Does a mail that you read via imap on your iphone, still download to your pop client on your mac/pc?

Thanks
Georg



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