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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08 Apps
I don't have a lot of usage time with iPhoto '08 yet, but so far, I absolutely hate it. Now before you all scream what?!?!, understand that I believe I will eventually love it. However, at the moment, it's been nothing but pain for me. Why? Because the new vaunted Events require a total rework of my existing image library.

In prior versions of iPhoto, one camera import was a roll, regardless of how much time this covered. That makes sense to me, and means that if you take a few pictures a day for a week or so, you'll wind up with one roll when you finally do your import. In the new iPhoto, you would wind up with perhaps five events instead, assuming you've left the iPhoto events time period set to its default of one day.

While this will prove to be a better organization thought in the long run, in the short run, it requires more work than the old method. For instance, if that week's worth of photos is of nothing but my kids playing around the house, well, that's really one event. Similarly, existing rolls probably need some serious editing to be properly structured as events, requiring the moving of a large number of images from event to event.

In the old iPhoto, you could simply drag images from roll to roll to reorganize them. In the new iPhoto, with the "photo browser in preview icon" behavior, you can't do that -- at least not using the default Events view.

To move photos in Events view mode, you need to first flag the images to be moved, select the destination event, use the Events » Add Flagged Photos to Events menu item to move them, then select the Flagged entry in the RECENT section of iPhoto, and unflag the photos. Ugh. Here's a simpler workaround, and while somewhat obvious, I thought it worth sharing for others who are now going through their existing libraries and trying to convert to the new Events metaphor.

Instead of using the Events library, switch to the Photos library, and make sure View » Event Titles is enabled. The Photos view works much like the old Rolls-based view, and you can move photos from event to event via drag and drop. The annoyance (at least for now?) in the Photos mode is that new images will always sort to the bottom of the window, regardless of your View » Sort Photos setting (which seems to apply to photos within an event in the Photos view, but to events themselves in the Events view. I hope this is a bug and not a feature!). Still, it's much easier to move photos around in the Photos view than in the Events view.
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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: sneeper on Aug 10, '07 08:07:05AM

In your scenario where you imported one roll and it turned into several events, to return them into one event you simply drag one event onto another, and you are done. This is in event view mode.

The first time it'll pop up a dialog asking "Are you sure you want to merge the events?" but then just click "Don't ask again" and it won't.





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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: ripthisjoint on Aug 10, '07 08:07:41AM

I have been moving photos between events by doing the following:

Open up the event and select the pictures you want to move and hit ctrl-X

Go back to All Events and then select the event and hit Ctrl-V

Thats it...done




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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: Papillon on Aug 10, '07 08:21:22AM

Of course now I realise the dumb stupidity of never bothering to reset my camera's clock when the batteries ran down. I have literally 100s of pictures in one August '96 Event!



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: osxpounder on Aug 10, '07 12:14:25PM

Don't be hard on yourself. In my opinion, it's iPhoto & Apple who made a mistake, not you. They foisted a new organization scheme on you without asking. Didn't they bother to look at how users actually use their stinking cameras? I bet most iPhoto users don't set their camera's calendar and clock.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: morespace54 on Aug 10, '07 01:00:08PM

I know I don't :(
I wasn't sure about the whole new Event way but now, this make me want to wait before making the switch to '08...

Dargn, all those photos... Now I need to label/keyword them before switching...



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: beepotato on Aug 10, '07 01:00:44PM

The sad thing is that the Image Capture utility has an option to automatically set the date and time of your camera when you connect it to your computer, but iPhoto doesn't do it (unless it changed in iPhoto'08).



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: gerbilbox on Aug 10, '07 02:13:16PM

Apple and iPhoto doesn't really force anything with Events, it's a separate kind of organization that runs independent of the albums. So if your Events is a mess, you can just ignore it and continue organizing like the way you did before with albums (and folders containing albums) in iPhoto.

My Events is a little bit of a mess when I first launched iPhoto '08 yesterday, but it's lots cleaner with some quick merging and splitting, and it's rendered most of my albums redundant, but there are certain albums I am certainly keeping, and that's not affected by Events.

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Precisely my problem
Authored by: squarefrog on Aug 10, '07 01:05:58PM

This is very similar to my problem. I still shoot film - yes ok you can stop gasping now - and as a result the timestamp is from the time I scanned the film in.

I was impressed by the iLife 08 videos, but in all honesty I think I'll stick with 06. It does everything I need it to.



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Does iPhoto '08 still have film rolls, too
Authored by: jecwobble on Aug 10, '07 08:36:54AM

I have all my pictures in iPhoto organized into film rolls, which for all intents and purposes to me, are what '08 would call events. Does '08 still have film rolls? Is there a quick way to convert hundreds of film rolls into corresponding events?



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Does iPhoto '08 still have film rolls, too
Authored by: balthisar on Aug 12, '07 04:47:51PM

Pretty much. I don't use albums at all. What's the point? My photos are a history that film rolls have kept perfectly, especially with the ability to create new rolls and move photos from roll to roll. Now that we have events -- instead of rolls -- there's no difference! My workflow is the same. Plus, there's the added bonus of a special "event" view (different than the library event view) where you have a key photo, and you browse by the whole roll/event rather than a list view with disclosure triangles (really, it's more useful than I make it sound).

I've not looked at books and prints in a while. It's worth your time to look at the new ordering options, such a books (they used to be $50, now they're only $30, with cheaper spiral/paperback options), plus calendars, postcards, etc. Just saying.

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Flags? Seriously?
Authored by: designbot on Aug 10, '07 08:49:36AM
Again, people are making things a lot more complicated than they need to be.

To merge separate events into one event, drag them on top of each other.

To spilt one event into separate events, click the first photo of the new event and click the Split button.

It's not that hard, people.

(And to answer the other person's question, iPhoto '08 automatically converts all your film rolls to events.)

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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: dg37mosxh on Aug 10, '07 08:54:13AM

In the event view mode, you can drag one event on top of another to merge them. Or you could select multiple events and click on the 'Merge' icon at the bottom of the window. It's that easy.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: MrLucky on Aug 10, '07 10:40:00AM

Something I didn't see in the Steve Jobs demo: can you merge non-sequetial events?

Say I went to Angkor Wat twice in the past year, and I want all the photos in one event.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: designbot on Aug 10, '07 10:46:39AM

Yes. Just drag one event on top of the other.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: hamarkus on Aug 10, '07 11:54:03AM

Since this is turning into a Q&A session on iPhoto events...

Are events simply automatically created smart albums/stacks that stop updating after their initial creation and then turn into simple albums/stacks?

My question would be, how long to these smart albums, err events, keep updating? If I upload photos to my computer three times a day, will they all end up in the same event? And if I upload photos from day 1 on day 1, and then on day 2 I add more photos from day 1 and some from day 2, will they all end up either in event 1 or 2? And if I months later get a picture taken on day 1 via e-mail and add it to iPhoto, will it be automatically added to even 1?



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: gerbilbox on Aug 10, '07 01:11:10PM

Events are automatically created initially based on when the photos were taken. I don't know what happens with multiple imports of images on the same day, it seems to go off the time stamp in the photo so my GUESS is that it would merge them into one event. I haven't tried it out yet. I found it quite easy to merge and split events, though, so customizing the events of recently imported photos is no problem.

Events is a separate kind of organization independent of albums, it seems that all photos MUST be in some kind of event, and a photo cannot belong to more than one event. You can view an event like a album, but you can also create albums that organize differently and independently of what you have in your events. Events are treated as searchable keywords, I just wish that it would do the same for albums.

I only started using it last night, it took me a little bit to figure out the behaviors, but I like it. The idea of events makes most of my albums totally redundant, but I have certain photos that require much more complex hierarchical organization that events can't do. For those photos, I'll continue to use albums and folders.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: morespace54 on Aug 10, '07 01:28:56PM

Okay. Fair enough.
Now what happen if I (miserably) didn't take time to set the clock of my camera?

I know, I should have know better but here I am... stuck with over 600 pictures dated on December 31 1999...

I guess Applescript (and a little time on my hand and a little help from my fiends) will come to the rescue...



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: gerbilbox on Aug 10, '07 02:09:11PM

I always found setting the time on my camera to be a little but useful thing, mostly for the sake of "When did that happened?" or "What time of year was it that I did such and such?" and I can reference photos to answer that. It's a little thing, but it's a lot more useful now with Events.



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Autosplit
Authored by: designbot on Aug 10, '07 10:50:53AM

You can also select an event and choose "Autosplit Selected Events" from the Events menu to automatically split an event into individual days, or you can select a range of pictures and choose "Create Event."



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The easy way
Authored by: Colin Jensen on Aug 10, '07 11:22:54AM

If you select an event and double click on it, it will show you the photos within it. If you select multiple events and double click, it shows you all the photos within those events.

To make a new event from select photos, just select the photos you want to make an event of and then select "Create Event" from the menu. It will create a new event from the selected photos. Ta da!

No need to flag or mess about outside of the event viewer.



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Events
Authored by: designbot on Aug 10, '07 12:05:16PM

Events aren't like smart albums. They don't automatically update themselves after they are created. I believe they're basically the same as film rolls, except your photos get split up into individual days when you import. If you add photos from the same date later, they won't automatically be added into the existing event, but you can merge them.



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Events
Authored by: osxpounder on Aug 10, '07 12:17:46PM

Sheesh, all this time and they are still burying photos deep in some folder structure instead of using metadata?

All my photos should be in folders I choose, or in one big folder, or whatever I choose. That was supposed to be the beauty of Spotlight and file metadata.

I still keep most of my pictures in my Pictures folder, and I only let iPhoto import from the camera. Stuff I actually want to keep and use gets moved out of iPhoto eventually because iPhoto is more trouble than the help it provides.



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Events
Authored by: tatilsever on Aug 10, '07 01:51:53PM

You can dump all your photos into whatever folder structure you want and then ask iPhoto not to copy when your pics are added to the library. That means you can either let iPhoto handle the organization and not worry about it or you can keep your own organization. What more do you want?

Sorry, but there is a bit too much pointless whining going on right now...



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Events
Authored by: gblanco on Aug 11, '07 06:55:33PM
I've not made the purchase yet, but from what I've read here it sounds like the two major changes are:

1) Film Rolls (renamed Events) are now the "preferred" method of organization, and they are no longer the entire contents of one import, but instead the contents of one import are broken out into separate Events based on the day the pictures were taken.

2) Film Rolls (aka Events) have a new interface that looks like the iPhone main screen, where a single photo from the event is shown as the icon for the Event, and when you roll over the icon, it cycles through the photos of the Event.

Assuming none of the features of iPhoto 6 are lost, it sounds like somewhat of an improvement. The vast majority of my photos are only in a single album each, and more often than not, the shots taken on a single day are from the same "event", so this is kind of an automatic album creation of sorts. I'm not sure I'm as excited about the fact that every photo has to be in an event though. I've got a large number of random photos that don't really fit into any definable "event". I've got young kids, and the camera sits at the ready to snap a few pics here and there. I'd hate to end up with 400 different Events in a couple of years.

So, one question. In the online demo, the problem they seem to say they are solving is the explosion of albums. Seems like they are replacing it with an even bigger explosion of Events. I think the new interface looks nice. Couldn't they have just created an "Album View" with the same new UI?

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Events
Authored by: raider on Aug 12, '07 07:22:50PM
I'm not sure I'm as excited about the fact that every photo has to be in an event though. I've got a large number of random photos that don't really fit into any definable "event". I've got young kids, and the camera sits at the ready to snap a few pics here and there. I'd hate to end up with 400 different Events in a couple of years.
Merge all the ones that don't fit in a specific event, and you will only have one event of "unknowns". If you do it each import it will never get out of hand.

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Events
Authored by: Old Toad on Aug 13, '07 10:20:43AM
1) Film Rolls (renamed Events) are now the "preferred" method of organization, and they are no longer the entire contents of one import, but instead the contents of one import are broken out into separate Events based on the day the pictures were taken.
The events will be grouped by either 1 day, 1-week, 2 hr segments or 8 hour segments depending on how you set the Events preferences. That applies for imports from the Finder unless that option is unchecked in the Events preferences. In that case the entire import will be put into one Event.

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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: rgray on Aug 10, '07 01:15:34PM

Screw it.. I think I'll go for Aperature...



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: SSUJoe on Aug 11, '07 02:16:14PM

Actually, this update brought me BACK to iPhoto from Aperture.
I liked how easy it looked in the demo.

I'm just a casual snapshooter...pics of bands and friends and kids.
I imported all of the pictures from my 5.5GB Aperture library into iPhoto '08, and the library is under 600MB!
In an old Powerbook, that kind of space saving is worth it!



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: ouranos32 on Aug 11, '07 03:12:57AM

In iPhoto 08, you can simply drag and drop your photo between events.
For this, show your library in Photos mode. (At the top left)
Now you see roll and you can Drag and Drop.



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: mpress25 on Aug 11, '07 08:09:58AM

As a lazy iPhoto user, I find this new iPhoto quite refreshing and helpful. It has really forced me to be organized. I have spent the last couple of days revamping my library, hiding (love that!) and deleting pics, naming events, and publishing to the Media Gallery (excellent addition!)

I am already a big fan of this '08 version. Like my iPhone has done to my previous phone, I already can't remember the old way...



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: greenarchipelago on Aug 12, '07 01:30:37PM

Hi,
though i didn't find that much time to try out iLife '08 in depth, i found some parts better and some worse than the old one, just like anything is like ;-)
Maybe the automated file organization "feels better" when getting used to. However, i was pretty surprised that my iPhoto library that was little less than 20 GB (admittedly already large) increased to a size of 28 GB (nearly 50 %)!
Possibly this happened after starting iMovie, which took quite a long time as there were (not too many = about 20, but, small) MP4 video files from my digital photo camera inside the iphoto lib that obviously caused iMovie to have some appetite .... Another possible reason my be that rumored "events" function, yet, i'm not sure, as i had no time to check for indexing files or similar, just like tose in the AppleLoops Audio folder (which sometimes can also grow to a few hundred MBs).
So far, i cannot provide any hints, yet, i'd really be interested in methods to shrink down the iPhoto library's size for at least a hand full of GBs ...
Cheers
G



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: Swift on Aug 11, '07 01:46:47PM

I absolutely hate...your review. Of course, I don't have 10,000 photos, but... it took me about a half-hour of moving around to get it set up the way I want.

And you know you can always access the whole library, right? Select "Library" not "Events" on the left.

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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: raider on Aug 12, '07 07:28:29PM

I agree. I think the new iPhoto is awesome. I bought iLife 08 just for that the day they showed it.

We have over 10,000 photos, and the new interface is SO MUCH BETTER in my opinion. Cleaner and easier to use.

I have about half of my photos events cleaned up and it took about an hour. Now I have much more detailed organization than was ever possible with the old iPhoto. And I use both the regular library interface too, depending on what I want to do with it...

It seems like some people are like "This is different, I don't like it" so they don't bother to try to see how it can help them, instead just closing minds saying "06 was better".

Seriously, give it a shot and maybe change your routine a little, and I think it works much better than the previous version.

Oh, and the new gallerys in dotmac are so much better than my old solution of iPhoto06+Gallerie. So easy and so nice...



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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: skochak on Aug 14, '07 03:53:48AM
Does anyone know if this -
find . -type f -exec mv "../Originals/{}" ~/.Trash/ ;
works with the new iphoto for removing originals of the modified images?

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Ease the moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: starwxrwx on Sep 11, '07 07:02:37AM

I HATE the new iPhoto!

I am a huge fan of film rolls, and while events are essentially (not exactly) the same thing, they have changed too much for my liking.

My major complaint is that the spacing between photos is now HUGE so even when minimised each event/roll takes up way more space than it used to (in "Photos" view).

The fonts are different - and larger. Again, more wasted space.

The events (in "Photos" view) no longer list the description under their name when the little arrow is pointing to the right. I really really liked this feature of film rolls - it gave each roll a personality aside from the title of the roll.

It is dog slow compared to iPhoto 06, which ran great (12 000+ photos).

Films rolls are a much nicer way of seeing lots of photos at once.

I'm very upset by this update, but I'll give it a shot. I'm sad there is so much wasted screen estate though. Very, very sad.



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moving of photos between events in iPhoto '08
Authored by: mistert2 on May 19, '08 02:04:40PM

This hint saved my sanity. I have been scanning family pics and maximizing space on the scanner table. I then realized the nightmare today. I did a little iphoto help menu with no help, then I googled and got this. Thank you Mac OS X Hints, time to buy your book again.



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