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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN) Network
Rumoured for Leopard, Bluetooth PAN is now in 10.4.9. I've just set up my W810i with my PowerBook, and I have a new network port: Ethernet Adaptor (en2), which is configured with a default name of Bluetooth PAN.

Note that it's now easier to connect to the internet via the Bluetooth menu using "Join Network on [your device]".

[robg adds: I can't confirm this one here, but would appreciate any confirmations -- it sounds quite useful for those with capable Bluetooth devices.]
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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: henryng on Mar 29, '07 08:38:42AM

actually the BT PAN also works with the PDA phone with WM5 AKU 3. All you need to do is enable the "Network sharing" application on the PDA phone and then pair it up with you Mac on BT. Once they are connected and you will see under the BT menu a "Join network". Select it and the you will be connected to the internet via the PDA's data network. Very simple to setup and no more DUN modem script kind of headache.

You can do the similar thing with USB PAN but you need the Missingsync to enable the USB Networking on the Mac.

Well done Apple!



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: MtnBiker on Mar 29, '07 09:42:02AM

I'm curious as to what this would be used for.

Thanks

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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: osxpounder on Mar 29, '07 11:40:35AM

Me, too.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: stephanos on Mar 29, '07 11:19:24AM

I jumped at this since I use GPRS over Bluetooth all the time with my Sony Ericsson K800i (I have an all-you-can-eat plan and sometimes go for entire days off it), but unfortunately, it connects, works (yes even downloads web pages if you're quick enough) but after about 10 seconds I get:

Bluetooth network failed.
Your device unexpectedly disconnected. Make sure it is turned on and in range.

No more info in /var/log or anywhere else so there's not much I can do to troubleshoot it, and it's not a bluetooth-level problem since it works fine through dialup / Internet connect.

Shame there's no more detail about the problem... at times like these it's like I'm still using Windows "sorry, it doesn't work, an that's more or less it"



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: Terry Jones on Jul 03, '07 03:03:00PM

I also get a connection that drops pretty quickly with the 'Unexpected disconnection' message. Anyone managed to fix this? I have a SE K610i which keeps a DUN connection running perfectly.

Regards,


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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: xell42 on Mar 29, '07 11:31:29AM

Works as described, I found about this yesterday when I was repairing my phone for another reason - suddenly, there was that new menu option :)
This is really useful, it seems to be much more reliable than the Bluetooth modem solution.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: dandyrandy on Mar 29, '07 12:22:19PM

One caveat: the pairing process may say it cannot find any compatible BT services on the phone (just like it's always done for my Dash), but that little item on the BT menu will indeed appear and indeed works great!



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: fgodiva on Mar 29, '07 02:28:11PM

When I upgraded from a Treo 650 to Blackjack, I realy missed this. Have been using USB tether. Now with PAN, I can get online much more quickly in tight spots like the airport. A little slower on Bluetooth then on USB, but not enought to make me pull out the cable. Confirmed working on Samsung Blackjack with Cingular 3G and 12" Powerbook.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: swindmill on Mar 29, '07 04:47:02PM

I have a SE K700i. Can I get this to work with it, and if so, how? I tried deleting it from paired devices and repairing, but the option is not there...



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: brutoblo on Mar 30, '07 12:51:15AM

Can we use this for Mac to Mac networking?



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: notmicro on Mar 30, '07 03:45:08AM

Is this available on Intel Macs only? I have my PB G4 PPC hacked to use my Nokia 6230 for Bluetooth DUN via Cingular EDGE and it works fine on the rare occasions I try it. I've installed the 10.4.9 update and I see nothing new relating to this hint anywhere on my system.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: jedik on Mar 30, '07 10:13:31AM

It worked fine here, using an iMac G5 2.0GHz and a SE W300i. The Bluetooth device must suport the NAP (Network Access Point) profile for this to work.

Cheers

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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: talos452 on Apr 29, '07 05:33:36PM

Do you think you could tell me the preferences you used to get this to work? I am in need of this to work within a couple days.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: miguelito on Mar 30, '07 05:46:37PM

Works great. I have a Samsung Blackjack on Cingular (in NYC). Since Microsoft eliminated BT DUN, I was using DUN over USB, which works fine except for the un-coolness of the cable. With 10.4.9, we get BT PAN, and it works great. Only drawback is that it's not as fast as DUN over USB, probably a BT speed limitation (the Blackjack and my MBPro are both BT 2.0, but still).

As for speeds, with a 3G connection, I get about 500kbps down, 450kbps up with BT PAN, and 1mbps down, 450kbps up with DUN over USB.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: notmicro on Mar 31, '07 12:57:35PM

For those who are confused by this post, as I was, note that your phone must support the Bluetooth "PAN" Profile (specifically PAN-AP). At this time, there are VERY FEW phones which include this, primarily from Sony Ericsson, Samsung, and HTC.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: Reaperducer on Apr 01, '07 08:11:42AM

I'm having some trouble getting this to work on a SonyEricsoon M600i with a G4 Powerbook. Can someone post a step-by-step so I can make sure I'm not forgetting something important?



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: miguelito on Apr 01, '07 08:37:14AM

Will clarify a bit (I thought the subject was clear enough but anyway)

BT = Bluetooth
PAN = Personal Area Network
DUN = Dial-Up Networking

BT PAN is available in all Windows Mobile devices using version AKU3 (or later). That's the BlackJack, the Q (I think), and maybe some others. It is a networking protocol over BT that does NOT require dialing a number, etc. You just connect as you do to an access point (although you do this through the BT menu rather than the WiFi menu).

BT DUN is available as long as the BT DUN stack (a file that defines the protocol) is available. With BT DUN, you will need to specify a phone number (or similar, like an IP address), an account name, and a password. Commands to the modem in the phone use the age old AT command set.

Microsoft removed the BT DUN stack in AKU3. Why? Beats me. There's a discussion about this in Microsoft's Windows Mobile dev network. Nevermind Macs didn't support BT PAN prior to 10.4.9. Just sheer stupidity , it seems to me, why would you alienate users this way? The BT DUN stack was available in the prior version, and there's no reason for the two not to coexist.

Anyway... My post assumed the thread was about BT PAN. If your phone does not support it, this thread is not for you.



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: ishapiro on Apr 08, '07 10:36:34AM

I have a Samsung Blackjack. No problem running Internet sharing, selecting Bluetooth PAN, clicking connect and then selecting Join Network from my MacBook Pro. Unfortunately this does not seem to bring up the network. The Bluetooth icon on the Mac shows the connected symbol, the Internet Sharing application on the Blackjack indicates we are connect.

However, when I look at preferences/network the Bluetooth PAN button is red and if I click on configure I see no IP address has been assigned.

Is there something else I have to do on the Samsung Blackjack to enable DHCP? If not how do I determine a appropriate IP address and DNS server addresses?

Thanks for your help.



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PAN Connection with Linux
Authored by: goga on Apr 09, '07 11:02:59PM

I am trying to make a PAN connection to my linux (linux as a master) in order to use its internet connection.
from linux I started the pan-deamon:

pand --listen --role NAP --master

When I make the connection to the PAN from my Mac (from the bluetooth-menu) I have to set up my bnep0 interface from linux:

ifconfig bnep0 10.0.0.1 as my master hat to have the IP 10.0.0.1


Well, because my network hat static IP-addresses (no DHCP) I need to setup my Mac to use the IP 10.0.0.3. Someone idea how to make this?



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10.4: Use a Bluetooth personal area network (PAN)
Authored by: katarchaea on Aug 18, '07 04:24:21PM

thanks for the excellent tip which works splendidly. Does anyone know if it works the other way around? That is, can I share out the internet connection of my mac to my bluetooth enabled sony ericsson k790 phone? I'd like to use it to set things up so I don't have to pay punishing data charges. I notice there are several older hints using scripts to achieve this, but I'm uncertain if Jaguar era scripts will work in 10.4.10. In mac os 10.4.10, "Ethernet Adapter (en2)" - presumbably the PAN bluetooth connection - now shows up in my Internet sharing, but even with this turned on, I cannot use bluetooth internet on my phone. Any ideas?



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