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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay System 10.4
Users who have installed the recent OS 10.4.9 update have probably noticed that it introduced a delay between the time the Eject key is pressed and when the eject function is activated. This delay also carries over to the Control-Eject shortcut for bringing up the Shutdown dialogue. Whereas a delay might be useful in preventing accidental presses of the Eject key, the Control-Eject combination is far less likely to be pressed accidentally, so the delay is a bit of a nuisance.

Fortunately, the shutdown dialogue can be summoned quickly without waiting for the delay. Instead of using the usual simultaneous Control-Eject combination, use Eject-Control. That is, press and hold the Eject key first, and then quickly (before an eject is triggered) press Control.

And if you'd like an immediate eject action, use Eject-Option in the same manner as above. The same seems to apply when you wish to sleep the machine immediately; use Eject and then Command-Option.

I suppose I should be grateful that the option of bypassing the delay is there, but I'm not sure I like the complexity of key combinations where the order in which the keys are pressed matters. I see no reason why the usual convention of a simultaneous (or modifier-first) Control-Eject, Option-Eject or Command-Option-Eject couldn't be used for their respective functions, given how unlikely it is to accidentally press those combinations.

[robg adds: These revised shortcuts work as described on my MacBook Pro. On my Mac Pro, however, I can't access the instant-eject feature -- I think that's because I have a second DVD-R in the machine, and Option-Eject is reserved to open that second drive.]
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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: atomrend on Mar 20, '07 08:39:00AM

And I thought that my keyboard's eject key was wearing out. Thank you for pointing this out.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: pub3abn on Mar 20, '07 09:52:44AM

Same here! I thought my key was failing. Glad to see that is not the case.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Oceanhints1 on Mar 20, '07 09:27:12AM

I have an iMac Intel 20", I have installed the 10.4.9 update and I have no delay whatsoever with the eject button.

When I press the button the drive instantly ejects the CD/DVD.

The hint advised above slows down my ejection time??!



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Spartacus on Mar 20, '07 09:35:49AM

I have the impression that this hint seems to work only because if you press Eject first, then you end up holding Eject for a longer time, and you have the impression that the dialogue appears more quickly after you press Control. But the total time for the dialogue to appear seems to be constant.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Aman on Mar 20, '07 10:00:45AM

+1 for Spartacus' post.



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It's just a delay
Authored by: MJCube on Mar 20, '07 01:19:26PM

I completely agree with Spartacus. But despite the mistaken ideas in the hint, the simple info about the delay has made my day! Ever since I installed the System update I was worried we'd lost a keyboard shortcut that I use many times every day, and I found the explanation here first.

The delay on my 450MHz G4 Cube is only about 1/3 of a second, but that's enough to prevent actions with an accidental tap of the key. The order of keys pressed doesn't matter, which is actually nice. One just has to have the desired combo held down by the end of the delay.



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Eject key activation delay
Authored by: AMacAddict on Mar 20, '07 09:44:24AM

Dual 1.8 PPC and there has been no change for me. Both actions are still instantaneous.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: themacnut on Mar 20, '07 09:54:24AM

This hint must only work on the Intel Macs, because on my PPC G5, pressing any combination of Control-Eject brings up an "Are you sure you want to shutdown your computer now?" dialog box.

On the upside, I have now learned what key combo brings up that dialog. There is a delay for the Eject button, but it's short enough that I can live with it.


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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: jiclark on Mar 20, '07 05:38:18PM

Nope. I have a Mac Pro, and it does not have the delay at all after installing 10.4.9... Only thing I can think is that maybe it doesn't affect some 3rd-party keyboards? I have a MacAlly ICEkey, and the eject key works instantly.



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Nope
Authored by: googoo on Mar 21, '07 07:35:06PM

The hint works as described on my PowerBook G4.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: pub3abn on Mar 20, '07 09:54:31AM

The instant-eject hint does not work on my Mac Pro, even with only one CD/DVD disc device installed.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: mike3k on Mar 20, '07 10:08:07AM

I like having the delay. I was ALWAYS hitting it accidentally on my MBP and it was very annoying. I very rarely have a CD in the drive, so I don't use it too often.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Mar 20, '07 12:11:34PM

This works on my G4 Digital Audio.

BTW, one shortcut missing from the list is Control-Option-Command-Eject, which shuts down the computer without popping up the shutdown dialog. (and of course Control-Command-Eject which reboots)

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: morespace54 on Mar 20, '07 12:15:25PM

I bet the delay is quite useful when on a MacBook or any laptop but on my iMac (where the eject key is far, far, top-right), It really annoy me.
Since I never accidentally press the eject key, the delay always make me think that the CD is stuck inside (which, on a iMac, is my biggest fear!)

[rant]
Plus, when are you really "accidentally" press the eject key? I mean, when a CD is in use (music playing, document opened, DVD running, etc.) it won't eject anyway... That makes me even less likely to "accidentally" press the key...
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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Lee_Adama on Mar 20, '07 12:17:39PM

I also thought my keybord was wearing out, and since I installed the update on the last day of my warranty I was freaking out. After awhile I realized it was just a delay, but I hadn't thought to correlate it with the new Mac OS update. I'm running a Dual 2.0 GHz PowerMac G5.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: jormsby on Mar 20, '07 12:38:32PM

The trick of pressing eject and then control does not work on my 1Ghz Powerbook G4. It causes the Eject to occur faster, just like the eject-option.

John



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: ton007 on Mar 20, '07 12:52:13PM

Scratching head here. Don't know what the deal is with this. When I press the eject-key nothing happens. When I hold the eject-key I get the instant-eject feature. No waiting involved. So as far as I can tell the old press key behaviour has been changed to a press-and-hold key behaviour. That looks like a change for the better to me. Control, alt whatever key-combo don't make no difference. All that matters is the 'hold' of the eject button.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: edified on Mar 20, '07 01:09:25PM
I am on a 2GHz iMac G5, I have a delay when I press the eject key (only since 10.4.9). Holding the eject key and then pressing the control key doesn't do anything- even when I hold them.

It's still control-eject+time for me :(
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Cool, but . . .
Authored by: bedouin on Mar 20, '07 03:16:49PM

It's just as inconvenient as holding eject down, perhaps more.

Please Apple, help us revert the eject key back to 10.4.8 functionality.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: afb on Mar 20, '07 04:51:26PM

Seems like Apple screwed up and enabled this for full-size keyboards, with which it seems pretty useless and annoying. That said, I'd like to be able to shut this off on the laptop too; something about a lack of response from the keyboard makes me uneasy. Seems like I'm not the only one who thought it was broken.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Notch Johnson on Mar 20, '07 07:18:44PM

How do you remove this delay? There must be a setting somewhere.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Notch Johnson on Mar 21, '07 07:11:13PM

Just for the record, I am seeing this on a 2.5 GHz Dual G5, Mac OS 10.4.9 with regular corded keyboard. Delay is annoying!



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no change here
Authored by: jdhorner on Mar 20, '07 08:43:32PM

updated, and have noticed no change at all.

i have a mac pro, with wired keyboard & mouse.

tap eject: nothing ever happens. same before and after update.
HOLD eject: cd tray opens. same before and after update.

there was no change in the amount of time one has to hold down the button for me.

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no change here
Authored by: mahakali on Mar 24, '07 07:01:00AM

You're right about the delay when ejecting disc tray. It's hardly noticable. But you'd notice something if you use the eject key for something else all the time (e.g. for putting your mac to sleep). I use cmd-opt-eject for putting my mac to sleep and I, too, thought something was wrong with my keyboard. It used to be in a blink.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: rspress on Mar 20, '07 09:09:12PM

I think the slow down is only on laptops. My eMac does not have the slowdown but my MacBook does. I can't tell you how many times I have hit the eject key when going for the delete key on the MacBook so I really like that they did this. In fact it may only affect a few laptop models were the eject key is close to other main keys.

I think most laptop users are going to love this feature.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: DistantThunder on Mar 21, '07 05:47:42AM

No, that is not correct. Read the other comments in this thread. It definitely DOES affect my Intel Mac Pro -- not a laptop by any means. And this behavior -- I would call it very annoying behavior -- came very abruptly and noticeably after installing 10.4.9. It is definitely tied to that update, and affects many Apple models.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: pdm on Mar 20, '07 09:19:40PM

How did you setup option-eject to eject your second DVD-R? I've been unable to figure a way to eject my external DVD-R drive with the eject key. That would be really nifty.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: jiclark on Mar 20, '07 11:08:05PM

It isn't anything you set up! It just works. On my MacPro, Option-Eject instantly opens the second drive. I have noticed, on my ICEkey keyboard, that I can use F112 and Option-F12 to open the respective drive trays as well, but when using those keys, there *is* a slight delay!

Who knows if there's any rhyme or reason to this

Good luck,
John



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: disinfor on Mar 21, '07 02:45:46PM
try this

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050210030547149&query=external%2BDrive%2Beject


That hint works awesome. It seems there's a couple other ones on this site as well. But this is the one I use.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: headphonejack on Mar 21, '07 03:20:25AM

Immediatly noticed the delay on those keys after applying the 10.4.9 update. (I use to shut down all my macs with this shortcut -> dialogbox. It is faster than doing it with the mouse.)

Anyway. I have not found out that this hint works. There is no change in the delay.

What I have found out so far is, that Apple destroyed something in the system preferenced "key repeate" and "key delay" rate with this update. There is nothing so far to change anymore. (Changing the speed from slow to fast, and enter the example text in the box below, shows that nothing has changed.)

Anyway, I miss this keycombo shutdownfeature a lot, hopefully a experienced mac user will come up with a "default write ...." for the terminal...

thanks for that
Rob



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: 199cm on Mar 21, '07 06:09:32AM

A very helpful hint, thank's!
But there is another problem with 10.4.9 on my Intel iMac. It is not possible any more to start up the machine in single-user mode holding down cmd+S. Does anyone know solution for this?



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: a153957 on Mar 21, '07 07:28:28AM

<em>Ok, so here for the easy and obvious fix:</em>
Go to the 'System Preferences'
Then to the 'Keyboard & Mouse' prefpane.
Choose 'Keyboard Shortcuts'
Then Press the '+' button
Choose 'All Applications'
As Menu Title type: 'Sleep'
As Keyboard Shortcut choose an easy shortcut;
- Hold down some modifier keys and press a key
Note: this doesnt work with the eject or F# keys.., so make it something simple like cmd+alt+ctrl+` or something else that is very unlikely to be in use..
Press Add.. done..

To make it work restart all applications from which you want to be able to invoke this shortcut.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: starwxrwx on Mar 21, '07 07:30:11AM

I also thought my keyboard was wearing out - or more specifically the batteries (Apple wireless keyboard). There was no low battery warning and the rest of the keys worked fine - now I know why! I have a Powermac g5.

I HAVE to press and hold the eject key in order to get the CD/DVD to eject. One press doesn't do anything - I find it extremely irritating, especially since even the 'instant eject' never ejects instantly - the disc always spins up and then down and then ejects.

On a related note - is there a way to force open the drive? There is no little force open hole on the drive, and if one software way doesn't work, none seem to! (eject button, disk utility, right-clicking...)



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: pub3abn on Mar 21, '07 08:38:35AM

One way to force an eject is to hold down the mouse button during reboot.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: cleanhead on Mar 21, '07 08:32:21AM

Pressing the power button on my ancient Powerbook (using ancient OS 10.3.9) instantly brings up the shutdown dialogue. Why would I bother with eject-key combinations? Am I missing something obvious here?



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Han Solo on Mar 21, '07 09:52:00AM

Because many desktop Mac models do not have easily accessible power buttons...?



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Doesn't work on my g4 tower
Authored by: webdog on Mar 21, '07 09:16:49AM

No effect on the delay on my G4 tower. If anything, it ejects the cd instead of bringing up the dialog about 50% of the time, which is even more annoying. What was Apple thinking when they did this? I could maybe understand the eject key delay, but not the control-eject for the dialog. That's just stupid. You're not going to "accidentally" hit the two keys on your keyboard furthest from each other. I hope this was a "mistake" and not some new "feature".



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: Makkisan on Mar 22, '07 01:40:53PM

I am running a eMac and this eject problem affects me aswell. I am hating this alot. I wish i could remedy this dumb move on Apples part.



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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: macgallery on Mar 22, '07 03:13:56PM
I haven't updated to 10.4.9 yet. Do you still get the delay when you use Menu Eject?

See - Add an Eject menu to your menu bar
http://www.creativetechs.com/tips/quicktips_51.html

Also I believe that Menu Eject can be used to eject discs when you have multiple disc drives.

Cheers, Tom

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: slb on Mar 22, '07 07:26:52PM
10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: FvdM on Mar 23, '07 04:34:53PM
I created a fix for ControllerMate owners, you can download and import it from here: http://frankl.in/ejectfix.cmate

Btw, only tested with the standard Apple Extended USB keyboard (wired), but if you replace the controller with yours it should work too. Basicly it sends the [eject] command when you hit the Eject key :)

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: mattelfesso on May 06, '07 11:30:36AM

I was convinced the 10.4.9 broke the eject key. It didn't occur to me to hold it down!



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This was changed again in 10.4.10
Authored by: MJCube on Jul 26, '07 07:45:01AM

Now in 10.4.10 they seem to have fixed it to serve both purposes well:
Control-Eject brings up the dialog immediately, like we're used to.
Plain Eject works after a delay, to avoid accidentally ejecting media.



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This was changed again in 10.4.10
Authored by: j4m3z on Jan 08, '08 09:48:42AM
I'm using the latest Tiger version on a G5 and when I hit control+eject I get the shutdown dialog. On a G5 the force eject shortcut is option+eject, NOT control+eject. This works when the drive is empty and when the CD is paused or stopped, but not if it's playing. Until I figured it out I thought the eject key was worn out too. The eject key is the top most corner key. Who hits this accidentally? I think someone was thinking too much and created a problem where there wasn't one before.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: j4m3z on Jan 08, '08 09:51:05AM
I'm using the latest Tiger version on a G5 and when I hit control+eject I get the shutdown dialog. On a G5 the force eject shortcut is option+eject, NOT control+eject. This works when the drive is empty and when the CD is paused or stopped, but not if it's playing.

Until I figured it out I thought the eject key was worn out too. The eject key is the top most corner key. Who hits this accidentally?

I think someone was thinking too much and created a problem where there wasn't one before.

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10.4: Avoid the 10.4.9 Eject key activation delay
Authored by: tc0nn on Dec 06, '09 07:12:03AM

To eject the DVD/CD on my macbook pro, the only keys that seem to work are the Mouse+power-up.



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