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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac System
As a corollary of this hint you can use an external drive that supports USB to migrate an from an older Mac that doesn't suppoer FireWire.

I just connected an external drive to an original Blueberry iBook using USB 1, took a few hours copying the 12GB of user files (yes, its hard drive had been upgraded) using Carbon Copy Cloner, and then hooked it up to a new intel Mac mini and ran Migration Assistant (MA). MA then cued me to copy stuff from the external drive, regardless of whether I had the drive hooked up via its supported FireWire or USB 2.0 connectors, and copied everything to the new Mac in 15 minutes. Unfortunately I had already made a new account on the new machine with the same name as the old account I was copying, so I had to make a temp account, run migration asst. from that and tell it to replace the duplicate account. Apparently you can't replace the account. while you're logged into it.

Just a note, if you're switching to an intel Mac, don't bother copying the Applications (OS 9), System Folder, or other Classic OS related items onto the USB drive to save you time since they won't work on an Intel Mac at all. Make sure to delete them from the Carbon Copy Cloner copy list before starting the copy.

This is easiest if you have a clean external disk to start from, but I did it from one that had 100 GB of other stuff on it already, and it worked fine. I just had to avoid the part of Migration Assistant that copies everything from the root of the disk, and then copy those root directories I needed by hand in the Finder afterwards.

Hope this can help someone!
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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac
Authored by: menace690 on Jan 17, '07 11:28:43AM

Could have saved yourself a lot of time by hooking them up with an ethernet cable and using Appleshare to share out the old mac's disk. Then you could use that shared disk as the source for the rest of your hint.



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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac
Authored by: ephramz on Jan 17, '07 11:48:45AM

Yeah? Is Ethernet really faster than USB 1.0? Or does it just save time in that you're only doing one copy, computer to computer, not computer to disk and disk to computer? I didn't realize MIgration Assistant can work off a network shared disk.



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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac
Authored by: ephramz on Jan 17, '07 11:59:03AM

Hmm, I just tried that in Migration Assistant with a shared volume that has system files on it and it doesn't recognize it for copying from.



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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac
Authored by: mm2270 on Jan 17, '07 02:16:35PM

Ethernet won't work for using Migration Assistant, but will work fine for a straight data copy.
I had a situation even worse than the one outlined here. I helped a user migrate from an old crusty beige G3 tower (no USB or FW connections to be seen; only ADB and Enet) over to a new Intel iMac. I just brought over a small ethernet switch, turned on filesharing on the G3, connected both Macs to the switch and mounted the G3s HDD on the iMac and copied away. Took a long time, mostly because the G3 was in horrific shape (directory structure hadn't been cleaned up in ages, etc) but eventually got all the important data over. Since the G3 was still running OS 9, there was no account to be migrated, so Migration Assistant would have been useless even if it had FW.



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One way to migrate data from a non-FireWire Mac
Authored by: schaps on Jan 18, '07 06:52:23AM
There are two different things goals you can have, and several different ways to accomplish each. If you don't have need to actually clone a user account, doing the process here is overly time consuming, as you get a whole bunch of unneeded stuff, cache files, preferences for programs you don't need, etc. Possibly corrupt stuff, too.

I run into those 350 Mhz blue iMacs all the time which came without Firewire, and I curse Apple and the buyer (to myself) for cheaping out-- Apple for skipping Firewire, the buyer for saving a miniscule amount of money (when amortized over the years they've had the computer) to get the non-DV iMac in the first place.

If just the data needs to be copied over, I prefer ethernet networking as fast and easy. If the intent is to import/clone the client I use the process below:
If the iMac is going to be continued to be used, I recommend the client get a 40-100 GB hard drive to upgrade it (such as this Seagate 80GB for $37.50- http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ST380020ACE-R&cat=HDD), because the stock 6-10 GB (or 13 in the case of a DV) drives are just too small to run OS X for more than a few months if you're using iPhoto and iTunes. It's then quite easy to pop the case off and get to the hard drive, plug it into a firewire external drive case (no need to put the whole case together or put in any screws, just plug the drive into the power and IDE cable), and import the data easily. I also pack along a USB 2.0--> IDE adapter cable, which can often be connected to drives while they're still mounted in the old Mac and then into the new Mac.
This is a good discussion to go over, as there are several ways to accomplish the task. I am continually amazed at how well those old iMacs will run Tiger if the memory is boosted and a larger hard drive is installed. Good enough and fast enough for many people, especially kids and oldsters.


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