Submit Hint Search The Forums LinksStatsPollsHeadlinesRSS
14,000 hints and counting!

How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders Other Hardware
Last night I was presented with a DVD-RW that had a recording (of a portion of a local television news broadcast) created with a DVD video recorder. I've heard people talk about not being able to play these disks in other devices (such as computers or regular DVD players). I slapped it into my MacBook Pro and, when it mounted almost immediately on my Desktop, I thought I was home free. Not so much.

The mounted volume contained one folder that appeared to be locked (it had the "locked" badge on it). I could open it in the Finder, but it appeared to contain no files. I launched Terminal and cd'ed into the folder. When I tried to ls, I was told I had insuffiecient privileges. A quick sudo (via !!) later I was greeted with two files: VR_MOVIE.INF and VR_MOVIE.VRO. The first of these was something like 16KB, while the other was just over 1GB. Bingo. But no. All attempts to copy the .VRO file were in vain.

I tried VLC, Handbrake, Mac the Ripper, DVD Player, Disk Utility, iSquint, and maybe a couple other things ... all to no avail.

I finally decided to try Toast and just burn a copy of the thing for later. Toast recognized the DVD, but informed me that I was not allowed to copy it. Toast also displayed a hint that I could add the titles via the Video -> Media tab. Sure enough, there is a pop-up menu in the media drawer that allows you to specify DVD. When I switched to that, I was presented with a list of chapters. I was able to grab the chapter I wanted and rip it directly to a Toast DVD image. Once the resulting image was mounted, it contained the standard VIDEO_TS folder and played normally in QuickTime Player. I was then able to transcode the chapter with HandBrake.

So there you have it. If you want to get video data off a DVD recorded in a DVD video recorder, Toast is the way to go.
    •    
  • Currently 3.45 / 5
  You rated: 5 / 5 (11 votes cast)
 
[94,788 views]  

How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders | 30 comments | Create New Account
Click here to return to the 'How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders' hint
The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. This site is not responsible for what they say.
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: JoseyWales on Nov 29, '06 08:05:37AM

I discovered this the other day. After hours of playing with utilities like ffmpeg, bbDemux, etc to try and convert VOB, MPEG2 and odd codecs of AVI video files to QuickTime, I finally found the export video feature in Toast - seems to work with just about any video format!



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: sigghy on Nov 29, '06 10:21:38AM

Doing what you suggested I got an error:
Couldn't complete the last command bexause of Mac OS Error
Result Code =-50
:(



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: JimMueller on Nov 29, '06 05:01:57PM

I get this error in Toast about once every 20 DVD burns - usually when it is closing. The DVDs still play fine.

The only reference I can find to this error is in regards to burning music CDs from iTunes ot Toast.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: CarrieC on Nov 29, '06 10:48:28AM

There is a third party program for Macs to allow reading of DVD-Ram discs.
ReadDVD! by Software Architects. softarch.com
Not affiliated, just a happy user.
-Carrie



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: cheeseworm on Nov 29, '06 01:31:55PM
I believe that MPEG Streamclip will open .VRO files, although I haven't tried it yet. It certainly says it does in the documentation:

'MPEG Streamclip is a converter, an exporter, a player and an editor.
It can open many file formats: muxed files MPEG, MPG, VOB, PS, M2P, MOD, VRO, DAT, VDR, PVR; transport streams TS, M2T, MMV, REC, VID, AUD, AVR, TP0; demuxed files M2V, M1V, MPV, AIFF, AIF, M1A, MP2, MPA, AC3; QuickTime compatible files MOV, DV, AVI, MP4, DIVX, WMV.'

MPEG Streamclip is downloadable free from:
http://www.squared5.com

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: Daemon on Nov 30, '06 12:44:41AM

MPEG Streamclip (a very valuable tool otherwise) fails miserably to copy, open or process .VRO files, at least those coming from a Panasonic DVD-RAM recorder.

The only tool I found able to extract the contents of .VRO files is Toast Titanium 7.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: cheeseworm on Nov 30, '06 04:00:31AM

Oh well - I did say I hadn't tried yet :-)

I have a Samsung and I'll try when I get some time, and if I remember I'll report back.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: cheeseworm on Dec 01, '06 06:25:44AM

I tried with the Samsung and so far I've had no success. I got the message:
'File open error: the file is too short'

I thought this might be because the disk hadn't been finalised but that made no difference - same error.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: cheeseworm on Dec 01, '06 10:41:50AM

After some more investigation the problem appears to be not with the video format but with the disk format. Mac OS knows about UDF 1.5 disks, whereas video recorders are using UDF 2.0.

The way I solved it was to open the disk in Parallels using Win 2K and drag the VRO file to a shared folder. Dragging and dropping on to MPEG Streamclip then worked as it should. (I'm still using Toast Ti 5 which doesn't have the video tab option, as far as I can see.)

Let's hope this is fixed in 10.5. It seems rather lame that the Mac offers excellent video editing and DVD burning straight out of the box, but can't read a common video format disk.

There don't appear to be any free solutions - I'd be interested to know if anyone finds one. In the mean time, the Parallels solution works fine. For completeness I also tried it in Virtual PC using XP and that worked too.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: PeaceFreak on Nov 29, '06 03:48:39PM
Someone gave me a DVD just a few days ago and I have been trying to extract the video off it to no avail... so this hint is very timely!

However, being a mere mortal, I don't have much of an idea about using the terminal and sudo... So I started a tutorial on the Terminal (at http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/ct/51but if someone knows of a better tutorial please let me know) .

I think I can get up to speed on sudo but I am having trouble working out how to find the directory for the DVD in the terminal. I can find other folders no problem...

(At the moment, the DVD does not appear in the Finder yet Toast sees it and it is locked...)

Thank you very much in advance!

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: blgrace on Nov 29, '06 05:55:06PM

Assuming the DVD mounts in the Finder - do this:
In the terminal just type:
cd <space>
then drag the disc icon of the DVD from the Desktop to the terminal and it will fill out the path.
You should see a path like : "/Volumes/'nameof dvd you just dragged'/"
Then just type ls <return> to see the files and folders

Hope it helps



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: blgrace on Nov 29, '06 05:57:52PM

whoops - didn't read your post properly about not mounting in the Finder
Sorry man
If Toast reports the name of the disc - then you should be able to get to it using"
sudo cd /volumes/nameof disc/



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: PeaceFreak on Nov 29, '06 10:34:44PM

Thank you very much for getting back to me. Really hope I can solve this...

I am trying according to your instructions... but I get a ‘No such file or directory' message.

I cannot see the disk in the finder, but Toast sees it and comparing the name that appears in the Copy tab of Toast (next to Read from: )with the name that appears with this DVD it appears that the name is: DVD-VR Disc

If I put:

sudo cd /volumes/DVD-VR Disc/

in the terminal, I get the ‘No such file or directory' message.

So perhaps that is not the actual name... How can I find out what the name is? I tried opening Disk Utility but it does not show up there either.

Or perhaps I need to represent the space between VR and Disk with a special character...

I tried doing this with a regular DVD and after I put in the password I did not get any special message after pressing return, it just returned to the usual prompt... Hmm, I hope someone can help out.

Thanks in advance!



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: zs on Dec 03, '06 03:05:39PM
I see a few problems with what you are doing there:
1) The path has a space in it, which the command line uses to separate arguments. Spaces in paths need to either be escaped by a backslash or surrounded by quotes, as shown below:

% cd /Volumes/Some\ Directory
or
% cd "/Volumes/Some Directory"

Your error message was probably "-bash: cd: /volumes/DVD-VR: No such file or directory" (notice, no "disc" in the error message?)

2) "sudo cd /some/directory" may get you into a directory that your user doesn't have permission to, but you'll have to preface every command in there with "sudo" (eg. "sudo ls" to list the directory). Hopefully you have permissions- to find out, try (with "% " denoting the prompt):

% cd /Volumes
% ls -l

If it shows up in there, look at the permissions. Which leads me to my favorite command line tutorial at OSXFAQ
The "ls" link explains users and groups with a link to permissions. Also, the "autocompletion" link should save you a lot of time.

If you don't have permission, things get more complicated.

Hope this helps! Problems like this are a great way to get into the command line...

---
zs

[ Reply to This | # ]

How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: TicToc on Nov 29, '06 10:58:48PM
You could try:
sudo cd /volumes/DVD-VR\ Disc/
...the '\' escapes (tells Terminal to ignore the special meaning of) the following space character. If this doesn't work, check that you can actually see the DVD in Terminal:
sudo ls /Volumes
(the 'sudo' may not be necessary, but if your disk somehow has permissions set to only allow reading by root, then it would be, so leave it in just in case) If your DVD isn't listed, then Terminal can't see it, in which case I bow to somebody smarter (there are many).
tt

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: Daemon on Nov 30, '06 12:53:17AM

In fact, you don't need to create a DVD image. Once you have added the contents of the .VRO file to the DVD project (and before quitting Toast), go to the Documents->Roxio Converted Items folder and there you will find the MPEG-2 file. Then, it can be reencoded using ffmpegX or other tools. Handbrake, unfortunately, requires a DVD (real or image).



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: rumirocks on Nov 30, '06 03:18:13AM
Here's another one:
I use Fast DVD Copy from Switzerland. I can copy DVDs from any region -- like those DVDs I pick up in Asia -- and copy DVDs that no other program can handle, or that even my TV/DVD set-up can't read (i.e.: only viewable on my laptop).

It was a life-saver last year when I was traveling into the boonies and didn't want to take the originals along. I made copies of commercial movies and protected exercise DVDs, and used the option to save to disk. Fast DVD Copy removes all protection and regions. [I have zip, zero to do with this company. I'm just grateful because I have young nephews who think it's cool to 'borrow' my DVDs and trade them in for pocket money.]
Here's the link:
http://www.fastdvdcopy.com/
Here's MacWorld's review:
http://www.macworld.com/2005/10/reviews/fastdvdcopy4/index.php

It's not cheap, but damn, it's fast, and worry-free. One shot is all it takes to get a working copy. And when I finally get a MacMini as a movie server sitting below my TV screen, Fast DVD Copy will be what I use to plough everything onto the 500 GB hard drive.

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: PeaceFreak on Nov 30, '06 07:52:20AM

Well, I am getting closer but not quite there yet. Glad to know there are so many helpful people out there...

For some strange reason the DVD now is appearing in the Finder. (I restarted!).. So I typed in:

sudo cd

then dragged the DVD icon to the terminal, and it looked like so:

sudo cd/Volumes/\$\ Dvd\ Rewritable\ Volume\ \$/

I pressed return and got the following:

sudo: cd/Volumes/$ Dvd Rewritable Volume $/: command not found

I also tried with the VRO file itself. I dragged it in after sudo cd. Here is the result:

[John:~] jones% sudo cd/Volumes/\$\ Dvd\ Rewritable\ Volume\ \$/DVD_RTAV/VR_MOVIE.VRO
sudo: cd/Volumes/$ Dvd Rewritable Volume $/DVD_RTAV/VR_MOVIE.VRO: command not found
[John:~] jones%

I hope someone can suggest something... I just noticed that the person who started this thread wrote:

A quick sudo (via !!) later I was greeted with two files: VR_MOVIE.INF and VR_MOVIE.VRO.

I wonder if (via !!) has some specal meaning?






[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: fredrikw on Nov 30, '06 09:48:58AM
First of all, to me it seems like the OP said that he couldn't solve the problem in the terminal, but needed to use Toast... So I think you could drop your problems with the Terminal for this time.

To adress your questions, it seems like you forgot the <space> after the cd command. It should look like sudo cd /Volumes/... not sudo cd/Volumes/...

The cd command means change directory, so after a succesfull run, you should get your normal prompt but now you are located in a different directory and can look at its content with the command ls. I recommend the UNIX FAQ that can be found in the forums! (http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=40648)

/Fredrik

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: PeaceFreak on Dec 02, '06 09:04:12AM

Yes, thanks for the link and explaination..

Yes, re-reading the initial post I now realize that using sudo etc., are not going to help...

When I see the file in the Media tab of Toast it has a lock on it that does not allow me to do anything with the file...

Has anyone managed to be able to get around this ‘locked' file problem?

Thanks...



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: july1962 on Dec 09, '06 08:58:12PM

This is great news!

Problem, though. I finalized the dvd in my recorder and put it in my computer and nothing shows up. How do I get it to show up on the desktop to begin with?



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: rodrilea on Jan 18, '07 09:30:24PM
Apple sells the QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback - Mac OS X plugin which you can find at the following website:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/6324003/wo/u91IX7XD5n1N3lmrlo72k0dUUIm/1.0.21.1.0.8.25.7.11.0.3

The QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback plugin supports the .vro audio format. With QuickTime Pro and the plugin you can convert these files into .mov files and import them into iMovie or edit them in QuickTime Pro.

Rod Rilea

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: troyraven on Aug 22, '10 09:20:46PM

I have got QT Pro 7.6 with mpg plug in and I still cant play or edit the .vro files.

How did you manage this rod or am I missing something?

Cheers,
Troy.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: mac-canon on Aug 26, '07 08:12:20AM

This is how I have been able to get .VRO files from my Canon DC50 DVD camcorder to my iMac, a combination of reading a few forums:

Software needed: Toast, ReadDVD, MPEG Streamclip

The key to unlocking the files in Toast (I have toast 8) was to download another piece of software readDVD ($50) This allows the mac to read files in UDF.

After installing, and hooking up the camcorder via USB. all the chapters in the DVD section of media browser were unlocked.

I loaded the files into toast (DVD-Video) and then grabbed them from the 'Roxio Converted Items' in 'Documents'. So I had the files on my HD. Then I converted to .DV with MPEG Streamclip (free) and iMovie would take the file.

I am still playing with the conversion options in MPEG Streamclip to get good quality and reasonable file sizes. (Exporting to DV seems to work OK.) It cost me more that I wanted it to (needing to buy Toast & ReadDVD) but I can use the Mac and DVD Camcorder as I wanted to now.

Hope this helps.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: machelp10 on Jan 11, '08 10:43:45PM

I successfully ripped .VRO files from a samsung dvd burner/player by mounting the disk on my imac, dragging the .VRO file to my desktop and then changing the .VRO to .VOB

You can then use Visualhub to convert to any format you like!

Happy Ripping.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: sebastianocc on Jan 24, '09 08:58:16AM
The system described above (drag the file to the desktop, change its extension from .VRO to .VOB, and convert) is by far the simplest method of all. But let me add a little update. Since Visualhub does not exist anymore, use iSquint (http://www.macupdate.com/download.php/19769/iSquint1.5.2.dmg) to convert to the format you need. After coversion, if all you wanted was part of the VRO video, use QuickTime Pro, select the part you want to keep, and choose Edit > Trim to selection. Save as "Self contained Movie", et voila!

[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: sebastianocc on Jan 24, '09 09:04:09AM
The system described above (drag the file to the desktop, change its extension from .VRO to .VOB, and convert) is by far the simplest method of all, and it's free. But let me add a little update. Since Visualhub does not exist anymore, use iSquint (http://www.macupdate.com/download.php/19769/iSquint1.5.2.dmg) to convert to the format you need. After coversion, if all you wanted was part of the VRO video, use QuickTime Pro, select the part you want to keep, and choose Edit > Trim to selection. Save as "Self contained Movie", et voila!


[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: danman93 on Nov 29, '09 12:09:01PM

I've never had trouble. When you get the folder open... save the VR_movie.VRO to a folder on your comp. then open it in Windows Movie Maker. Then just save it to your computer! simple as that.



[ Reply to This | # ]
How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: PBear on Mar 27, '10 10:40:38AM
If all you want is to convert a VRO recording to an MPEG-4 video, all you need is Handbrake. Just drag the .VRO file to your desktop, change the extension from .VRO to .VOB, then open the .VOB file in Handbrake. It works fine.

Can't figure why people here were having so much trouble -- unless VOB support has just recently been added to Handbrake. (Or, maybe, it works because VLC Media Player is installed as well -- since it's known that having VLC installed in the same folder as Handbrake [Applications, normally] adds other capabilities to Handbrake, maybe that's where basic VOB support in Handbrake comes from.) So, maybe, you need Handbrake and VLC Media Player installed to convert VOBs, but you can do it in one step using just Handbrake.

[ Reply to This | # ]

How to rip .VRO files from DVD video recorders
Authored by: Zee100 on Oct 05, '10 09:20:25AM

Hello to anonymous who first posted this comment.

I have had the same problem, downloaded Toast, did what you said, and was able to view the chapters. Problem is I am not sure how to copy them. I want to start about half way through and copy about 20 frames. Do I use the markers? You did explain but I couldn't follow what you said. Can you please explain again in very simple terms.

Thanks so much. I am much relieved being able to view the DVD.

Also I want to make a still from one slide of the chapters. Is this possible?



[ Reply to This | # ]