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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like Apps
Those of us who have a .Mac email account and use Mail have probably discovered by now that the Inbox on our computer for our .Mac account is a link to the .Mac server, and our email will not be automatically downloaded to our account and removed from the server as it would be with a POP account. (This type of email account is called an IMAP account).

Consequently, attachments are not automatically downloaded and, also, emails have to be deleted manually from the .Mac server. If you wish to overcome these characteristics, you can create a new mailbox folder for your incoming email ("InMail", for instance) and then create a Rule that is at the bottom of the list of Rules saying:

If any of the following conditions are met: Every message, then: Move Message to mailbox: InMail.

You might also want to add:

Play Sound ______

If any earlier Rules divert emails to other folders, you should also add the following to those Rules:

Stop evaluating rules

This setup makes your .Mac email account more like a POP account, because the action of Moving a file from the .Mac server to your computer adds it to your computer and removes it from the .Mac server, and the Mail Rule automates this action. This will not affect normal access to your .Mac email via web mail using a browser on another computer when you are away from home. The exception to that statement is if you leave Mail running on your home computer, then those messages will be automatically downloaded and moved, and won't be available.

The shortcoming of this scheme is that new emails will not be indicated by a number on the Mail icon in the Dock. However, you can have new email announced by a Sound, and the number of unread messages in your InMail folder will be indicated adjacent to the folder name in the Mail window. Therefore, you might want to set the New mail sound option under General Preferences to None, and enable the Play Sound options for other mail actions as well.

Thereafter, a Mail alert sound will only be generated if new email has survived your preceding Rules filters and has been stored in your InMail folder. (That is, assuming your other rules have not been programmed to divert email to other folders, and to generate their own alert sounds when they do so. If they have, just make sure the sounds are distinctly different for each Mail diversion action you want to know about, so you will know what type of email has arrived and where to look for it).
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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: leenoble_uk on Mar 02, '06 07:21:49AM

Is Mail in Tiger different to every other version. I've not upgraded yet so I honestly don't know. My point being that you've always been able to use your .Mac account as a POP account.
Instead of choosing .Mac from the setup options, choose POP and just type in the regular details.
I simply leave my POP settings to delete messages from the server after 7 days so I still have the option of viewing messages in a browser if I'm away from my usual desk.

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: kirkmc on Mar 02, '06 08:19:13AM

What he said. I've always had my .Mac account set up as POP... It seems that this hint jumps through a lot of hoops to do something that's pretty easy otherwise.

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: JKT on Mar 02, '06 07:46:35AM

This tip is crazy. Switch from IMAP to POP?? POP is awful in comparison to IMAP.

Quote: Consequently, attachments are not automatically downloaded and, also, emails have to be deleted manually from the .Mac server.

Forget this misinformation and simply change your .Mac (IMAP) account preferences (Mailbox behaviour and Advanced) to achieve the same effect (my messages are not left on the server when deleted and all my attachments are downloaded automatically). That way you will retain all the benefits that IMAP has over POP.

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: Welles Goodrich on Mar 02, '06 08:00:22AM

Where do you select to have attachments downloaded automatically?



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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: simbalala on Mar 02, '06 09:57:03AM
This tip is crazy. Switch from IMAP to POP?? POP is awful in comparison to IMAP.
Agreed! Why would anyone want an IMAP account to act like a POP account? It's like throwing away the flesh of a fish and keeping the bones

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: sjk on Mar 03, '06 11:35:37AM
Why would anyone want an IMAP account to act like a POP account?
Not enough space to store messages on the IMAP server indefinitely?

My wife's relatively low-traffic FastMail "Member" account still has the default 16MB storage quota. I configured it as an IMAP account in Apple Mail so she can access new and a limited number of older messages using the webmail client. Eventually she moves most of those messages to another account (using Mail), which is an acceptable solution until/unless 16MB becomes insufficient and we pony up $24.95 for an additional 100MB of storage.

I'll leave other possible reasons to people who want to explain them.

Personally, I avoid POP whenever possible. I'd rather be stuck using a webmail client than POP clients on different systems for accessing the same server.

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: pepi on Mar 04, '06 07:18:46AM

For whatever reason you may want to behave .Mac mail like a POP account...

If you want it to be like that, just set it up manually as a POP account. I've been doing so since it was calles iTools and it always worked like a charm.

For those of you who don't know exactly, here are the settings for .Mac popping:
Incoming Mailserver: mail.mac.com
Username: [i]Your .Mac username without "@mac.com"[/i]
Password: [i]obviously your password[/i]
Authentication Type: Password
SSL: YES (Tick the checkbox) (Not needed, but highly recommended)

Outgoing Mailserver: smtp.mac.com
Port: 25 (with o without SSL enabled)
Authentication Type: Password
Credentials are the same as for POP/IMAP
SSL: YES (tick the checkbox) (Not needed, but highly recommended)

Adjust deleting of downloaded messages, etc. to your liking.
Pepi



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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: Welles Goodrich on Mar 02, '06 08:07:44AM

Aha! Would that happen if I select "All messages and Attachments" from the dropdown menu about keeping copies for offline viewing?



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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: gdbjr on Mar 02, '06 04:22:51PM

If you choose that option then Mail will download a copy of all messages and attachements to your local computer as well as still keeping them on the server.



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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: kikjou on Mar 05, '06 08:30:16AM
There seem to be a lot of misconceptions about IMAP, a protocol that is clearly superior to POP. I find this mostly with people who are used to having all their mail downloaded to their (single) computer. What they don't realize is that with IMAP you get all that POP offers and more. Agreed, the protocol itself does not by default, remove mail from the server, but this is actually a very welcome feature. Because with IMAP, the user is in control of whether you want your mail stored on the server or on your computer.
To do the latter, simply create a local mail folder and move mails from the inbox in here. These mails will then be removed from the server and will be residing only on your computer. You can also have a mail rule or a script do this for you.

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Use Mail rules to make .Mac mail more POP-like
Authored by: pi314 on Mar 05, '06 05:51:56PM

My problem of IMAP is, when I received a scrapped email because of unexpected internet disconnection, there is no way to recover. If I use POP and leave mail on server, I have more freedom to recover.
How do you think?



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