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A message in Apple's Mail app can be permanently removed by cutting it (Command-X) instead of deleting it via any of the usual methods. This is a pretty basic hint, but when I'm clearing out mailboxes, it saves a trip to the Trash mailbox to delete them again.

[robg adds: Cut also works in the usual way -- you can cut a message or messages from one spot, switch to another mailbox, and then paste to move the message(s). But if you skip the paste step, the cut messages are indeed gone as soon as you do anything else that changes the clipboard.]
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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: crashcane on Jan 05, '06 07:44:15AM

This actually scares me. Just this week I lost a message from my inbox, and I couldn't find it anywhere. I searched through every mailbox I have. It wasn't in the Trash, and as I have my trash set to delete messages over 30 days old, and the message was less than a week old, I had no idea where the message went.

Now I wonder if I hit apple-X and cut the message out of my mail database.

Anyone know a way to disable this feature?



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: sgs812 on Jan 05, '06 08:51:53AM

The same thing happened to me a while ago.

The solution I used was to change the keyboard shortcut for cut in mail to something else (i use com-opt-shift-x).

To do this go to system preferences, then the keyboard and mouse pane, click on the keyboard shortcuts button and then press the + sign on the lower left side. Now select Mail from the application popup field, (or select other and direct it to Mail), type "Cut" in the Menu Title field and then enter whatever new shortcut you want in the last field (although you need to avoid using a key combo that is already in use in Mail, or change that one too).

Another one I change is the quit command in Safari (I use com-opt-q) so I don't accidently hit com-q instead of com-w.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: xdogjs on Jan 05, '06 08:21:35AM

I think this is a great hint. It DOES save time. I've found apple mail very slow indeed. Especially moving from one message to another.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: rich74 on Jan 05, '06 08:33:08AM

What about the command+k shortcut to empty the trash - it's as quick as command+x and you have the option of recovering any "accidental" deletions before you empty the trash ...



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: rich74 on Jan 05, '06 08:34:58AM

...erm, especially if you use command+backspace to delete the message in the first place



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: Tom Robinson on Jan 05, '06 11:00:53AM

As mentioned above, if you command-x by mistake you can always command-v to recover an accidental deletion (or just undo, although both require that you notice the mistake).

Personally I do usually use command-delete, but most messages I leave in the trash for x days--so don't want to empty it.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: osxpounder on Jan 05, '06 01:03:47PM

Cmd-Delete puts it in the Trash.

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why command-delete?
Authored by: sjk on Jan 05, '06 08:04:52PM

Are you using command-delete to trash messages opened in separate windows? In regular 3-pane viewing just tapping the delete key is enough.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: Cameroon on Jan 05, '06 03:19:50PM

I feel like this is more of a bug than a feature, honestly.

For instance, Windows and OS X both have Copy and Paste for files. OS X doesn't even offer a Cut (or Move, which would be equivalent) via keyboard shortcuts and in Windows nothing happens to the file unless a Paste actually succeeds. The potential for accidental destruction is just too high.

I have the same problem with deleting files from network shares in Windows and OS X. At least in OS X it warns you that the delete is immediate and unrecoverable. I do tech support for desktop users and we get our fair share of "Uhh... I deleted file XYZ from the network share. It isn't in my Recycle bin."



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: asmeurer on Jan 05, '06 05:32:54PM

All you have to do is set your accounts preferences to erase deleted messages after to something other than none. No, it isn't immediate, but pressing delete accidentally is too easy for that anyway. As far as cmd-x, just one more reason to have a clipboard history app.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: aski on Jan 05, '06 08:06:54PM

(Apple key + delete) Accomplishes the same thing as well if I'm not mistaken. Discovered by accident when reverting to the Finder delete instinct.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: Demani on Jan 05, '06 09:02:50PM

I have seen this crap out when cutting a large number of messages- beware of trying to use this to archive last quarter's email. There is some limit that when hit will simply cause you to lose all emails that were cut.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: vikash on Mar 17, '06 07:34:45AM

On my iBook I have to press fn+command+opt+backspace to delete messages. Presumably this is the same as command+opt+delete. Command+fn+backspace doesn't do anything for me.



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Delete Mail messages without using Mail's trash
Authored by: vikash on Mar 17, '06 07:37:11AM

...And it does delete them without putting them in the Trash.



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