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If any of the tags in an MP3 contain the text "podcast," then iTunes will treat that MP3 as a podcast. The problem is that iTunes won't let you edit all the tags that may contain this text, in particular, the subtitle tag (the "TIT3" frame from the ID3v2 spec), which is what you see in the "Description" column of the Podcast screen.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any apps that allow you to edit arbitrary tags, including non-standard ones, without resorting to Fink or Darwin Ports. (But I'll bet someone is will point one out in the comments.) I ended up downloading and compiling id3lib and id3v2 to get at all the tags.
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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: osxpounder on Sep 21, '05 12:46:03PM

Ouch! That means that I can't record a snippet from a podcast, and then, in its comments field, add "Snagged this from so-and-so podcast". If I do that, iTunes won't let me come back later and edit the tags. Glad you pointed it out. What a shame.

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: Peter Kappesser on Sep 21, '05 02:07:40PM

I suppose one can resort to 13375|?34|< and call it a "p0dcast". Or just "p'cast" or even "'cast".



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iTunes wouldn't stop you from re-editing it...
Authored by: DanPritchard on Sep 22, '05 05:41:37AM

No. I think what the post meant is that iTunes only lets you edit the normal fields, but podcasts often contain this "subtitle" or "Description" field which iTunes doesn't let you edit. If you put "Podcast" in the title or comment or artist or whatever, iTunes wouldn't stop you from going back and editing it again.

What this means is if the podcast uses one of these unusual fields to ID itself as a podcast, it'll be tricky to change that.

I would just try hexediting it if I were in that position. Pretty sure ID3 tags are just text appended to the very beginning of the file. Just change "podcast" some other 7-character string and it'd probably be fine.



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: osxpounder on Sep 21, '05 12:46:04PM

Ouch! That means that I can't record a snippet from a podcast, and then, in its comments field, add "Snagged this from so-and-so podcast". If I do that, iTunes won't let me come back later and edit the tags. Glad you pointed it out. What a shame.

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: DougAdams on Sep 21, '05 12:54:06PM
I don't know if this helps, but the category, description, and long description tags of a track can be edited with AppleScript.

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Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: zenox on Sep 21, '05 07:01:24PM

quote: "If any of the tags in an MP3 contain the text "podcast," then iTunes will treat that MP3 as a podcast..."

Sorry, but are you sure about that? I created a smart playlist with "Podcast"->"is true", then edited an mp3 file and put the word "podcast" in all the tags, but the file doesn't show up in the smart playlist...



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: sjk on Sep 21, '05 09:08:25PM

Maybe it would help if Elliot clarified what he meant by "iTunes will treat that MP3 as a podcast" in his original post? Maybe it only works that way in searching (I can't test that right now)?



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 21, '05 11:29:13PM

Native podcast support came in 4.9, right? I think something has changed in iTunes 5. I've been subscribing to the podcast "Free Radio Sub Pop" (from Sub Pop Records), but recently (I think since upgrading to iTunes 5), I can't copy/move songs from my Podcasts folder into another music folder and get the Podcasts playlist to "forget" about them.

I tried Doug's AppleScript for setting the Long Description as well as running id3v2 (installed thru Fink - thanks for the tip!). I can't find "podcast" anywhere in those files, yet iTunes remembers that it was a podcast! Duplicating the file, changing the filename, changing the tags - nothing seems to break this association.

Any one have any ideas?



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 21, '05 11:49:04PM
A couple more things. While Doug's AppleScript can get the (Long) Description, it doesn't appear to be able to set it (well, on my iTunes on the latest Sub Pop song, from the Constantines).

I used id3v2 to check the tags, and the (Long) Description was listed as the "TT3" tag:

id3v2 tag info for Love In Fear.mp3:
TEN (Encoded by): iTunes v4.9.0.17
COM (Comments): (iTunNORM)[eng]:  00000F4A 00000573 0000AC2F 00003AA5 000340F5 00001BA7 0000864D 0000840F 0002D639 00034EF0
COM (Comments): (iTunes_CDDB_IDs)[eng]: 10+284448EC1C7BE892CF128E8BC4AC0930+5872480
TRK (Track number/Position in set): 3/10
TYE (Year): 2005
TDR ():  frame
PCS ():  frame
TT3 (Subtitle/Description refinement): 3:55, from Tournament of Hearts by The Constantines
TDS ():  frame
TID ():  frame
WFD ():  frame
TCO (Content type): Alternative & Punk (255)
TT2 (Title/songname/content description): Love In Fear
TP1 (Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)): The Constantines
But trying to set that tag ("--TT3") w/ id3v2 caused an error (unknown tag). Setting the TIT3 tag ("--TIT3") to any value caused the tags to be significantly shuffled around (mixing ID3v1 and ID3v2)!
id3v1 tag info for Love In Fear.mp3:
Title  : Love In Fear                   Artist: The Constantines             
Album  :                                 Year: 2005, Genre: Unknown (255)
Comment:  00000F4A 00000573 0000AC2F     Track: 3
id3v2 tag info for Love In Fear.mp3:
TENC (Encoded by): iTunes v4.9.0.17
COMM (Comments): (iTunNORM)[eng]:  00000F4A 00000573 0000AC2F 00003AA5 000340F5 00001BA7 0000864D 0000840F 0002D639 00034EF0
COMM (Comments): (iTunes_CDDB_IDs)[eng]: 10+284448EC1C7BE892CF128E8BC4AC0930+5872480
TRCK (Track number/Position in set): 3/10
TYER (Year): 2005
So, this "fixes" my problem, but I don't quite understand how those tags worked, nor how iTunes could not be fooled into forgetting about a song originally downloaded as a Podcast. And, I need to go back and re-tag Artists, Title, etc. to those files. Not a good solution...

Next time I get a new Podcast file, I'm going to play w/ iTunes "Convert ID3 Tags" contextual/menu item. I'm very curious to hear any other takes on all this!

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 22, '05 11:51:38PM

I'm not sure anyone else besides Doug and I are still reading this hint :-), but here's one more tip.

Again, I'm just trying these steps on the Sub Pop Podcast MP3s. (What? You haven't subscribed yet?!? You are missing out on some of the best indie/alt-rock out there!)

Once again, I want to thank Elliott, the original poster, for the suggestion to try the "id3v2" program. If I simply run "id3v2 -C" (the convert option) on the Sub Pop MP3s, I can keep all iimportant tags, but it clobbers a bunch of others, including the one(s) that flag the file as a podcast.

I can't find a combination of "Convert ID3 Tags" conversions inside iTunes to accomplish the same thing, so it looks like the "id3v2" program is the answer. Well, for me at least.

I'd love to hear what others find! Feel free to email, too, since it's hard to remember to keep checking back here. My address is just my username (hypert) at verizon.net (without the parens).



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: DougAdams on Sep 22, '05 09:22:43AM
Thanks for checking out the scripts (Enter Category Text for Selected, Enter Description Text for Selected, and Enter Long Description Text for Selected). They merely set those tags, by the way.

There is another read-only track property called podcast, introduced in iTune 5.0, which I suspect is causing the trouble. This prop takes a boolean, and cannot be altered (at least via AppleScript). I'm not exactly sure who sets this, but perhaps your d/l'd 'casts are produced using Apple's new podcast XML namespaces, and iTunes sees this and sets podcast accordingly.

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Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 22, '05 01:00:14PM
Well, I took your script and modified to display the current tag value before modifying. That's how I knew the data was really in (long) description. However, the script couldn't modify the tags (for me). Every time I re-ran it, my debug "display dialog" still showed the same values. id3v2 confirmed that there were no changes.

But, using id3v2 to set one tag seemed to blow away most of the ID3V2 tags (leaving the ID3V1 tags). This removed the podcast flag somehow, and I just had re-tag the the file. Might be easier to just d/l the MP3s from Sub Pop each week!

I appreciate knowing about the "podcast" boolean property in AppleScript. (I hadn't looked at iTunes 5's Dictionary yet!) Maybe someone will find a way to set that through some other means...

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: DougAdams on Sep 22, '05 01:34:34PM

NP, hypert.

Thanks for the thought on displaying the Long Description, since you can't see it otherwise.

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Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: DougAdams on Sep 23, '05 06:28:04AM
Oh, and also: "However, the script couldn't modify the tags". There was a bug in iTunes 5 that prevented a script from altering the description tag. Have you upgraded to 5.0.1?

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Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 23, '05 01:05:41PM

Nope, I'm still on 5.0. Glad to hear that function will work in 5.0.1.



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thanks
Authored by: sjk on Sep 23, '05 08:03:38PM

Just a quick thanks to everyone here for their interesting and informative comments.



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Check out Metadata Hootenanny
Authored by: dave1212 on Sep 26, '05 01:40:16PM
Check out Metadata Hootenanny

I've been using it for a while to edit meta info in a lot of files. Might do the trick.


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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: dlhull on Sep 26, '05 09:15:39PM

The webpage at http://www.pixeltree.org/code/ identifies the new 'PCST' (or 'PCS') tag as what iTunes uses to identify podcasts. However, beware running the code that the author supplies to overwrite the tags--I don't believe that it is OK to just zero out unwanted tags.



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: hypert on Sep 28, '05 09:38:11AM

Thanks to David Hull for the link to the code at pixeltree! It compiled simply on Mac OS X by saving the code and then typing "gcc fixid3tag.c" (w/ Developer Tools installed).

I even modified the code so that it could run on any number of files at once, instead of one at a time.

Works like a champ! :-) The resulting files/tags are easily displayed by iTunes and the "id3v2" program mentioned here, so I don't think there's any issue with the zeroing out these tags.

Nice job!



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Is there a tool for the less geeky?
Authored by: chancer on Oct 09, '05 12:04:15PM

Oh, how I wish someone would make a tool for us less geeky folk! I too would like to remove some old podcasts from the podcast listing, and just have them be part of my regular library. But I'm not up to this building command line stuff.

Jessi



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Is there a tool for the less geeky?
Authored by: hypert on Oct 13, '05 01:28:32PM

I just sent you an email through this website - write back to me.

I'll send my compiled versions of "unpodcast" (fixid3tag.c) and "id3v2" to anyone who asks. If enough people ask, I could make a real app using Platypus, if I get the permission of the authors...



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"unget" podcasts?
Authored by: sjk on Oct 09, '05 03:32:00PM

Since a podcast is usually a one-time listen I'd like is a way to "unget" it from the Podcast playlist after listening to it, which would delete the file associated with it (to reclaim disk space) but preserve the playlist entry playlist (which could be marked as played). Just manually deleting the file would leave an orphaned entry for it. Any idea how to convince iTunes to do an "inverse/undo get" of a podcast" like I described?



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"unget" podcasts?
Authored by: hypert on Oct 13, '05 01:17:00PM

First, what would be the point of crowding up your podcast playlist with files that aren't on your system? Are you trying to get a playlist such that clicking on a podcast will cause the iTunes to go fetch the podcast on demand, instead of storing it in your Mac?

Second, I can't think of a way to do this. You got closest to the mark when you said you could just delete the MP3 file, but this will leave you with a dead podcast link.

If you delete a podcast file (w/ the Delete key, I think), iTunes will ask if you also want to remove the file from your drive. I always do this, to keep my drive and my playlist clean.

I only ran into one problem with this approach - Roger McGuinn's Folkden podcast. They're not identifying each podcast "episode" properly, so my iTunes was downloading every song every time it tried to update the podcast subscription.

So, what is it that you will get by having items in your podcast playlist that aren't on your computer?



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"unget" podcasts?
Authored by: sjk on Oct 25, '05 06:27:48PM

The point of preserving Podcast playlist entries after deleting the content is to keep a history of what I've listened to (or watched). And maybe I delete the content before listening/watching, then decide to download it again later. So, I was wondering if anyone knew a way to do that without creating dead links (orphaned entries, in my original post), which apparently there isn't.

A kludgy workaround is to remove an entire podcast feed after content has been deleted, then resubscribe so that all entries (with and without content) are recreated. But there's no guarantee all the entries will still exist on the server. So, when I want podcast history for deleted content I'd rather just live with the dead links, even if it's messy.

Does that make more sense now?



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: bryanpage on Oct 25, '05 06:48:59AM

What would be really handy for me is to be able to actually tag files with Apple's "Podcast" and TV show tags (season, episode etc.) That way I could import shows I captured myself and use them in the same way as purchased files. Is there any app that can write these tags?



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: microbians on Feb 28, '06 02:01:58AM

Foud this way... Download this tool (http://www.pa-software.com/downloads.html#BC3B2E3A) ID3 Editor.

1. Drop to the desktop de mp3-podcast-file
2. Drop the file of the desktop to the ID3 Editor
3. Take out the podcast genere
4. Update botton
5. Add the file again to iTunes

For me is working fine.

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http://www.cocoe.com



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: iwbyte on Jun 27, '06 12:32:45AM

I'd love to do the same - I sometimes catch onto a podcast 100 or so episodes in, and i'd love to go to the web site, download the first 10 or so episodes and put them in iTunes. Well, I can do all that, but then they don't show up in the 'podcast' section of itunes, only if I manually search for them in my library.

So I guess I need to know how 'set' the podcast flag for these MP3s I download outside of iTunes?



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: dtmp on Apr 07, '10 10:40:53AM
For video files use lostify:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20183

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: DougAdams on Jun 27, '06 04:29:50AM
To re-add files to the Podcast playlist, try using the AppleScript Re-Add Selected Tracks as Podcast.

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Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes
http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/

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Installing id3v2
Authored by: djd on Jul 08, '07 11:35:41AM

If anyone out there can offer some reasonable directions to get ID3v2 installed it would be much appreciated. I've been fooling around with fink and darwin ports all freaking day and have only managed to get id3lib installed.



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: interconnect on Jul 27, '07 09:45:33PM

i'm looking to do the opposite of this.. edit the subtitle tag so i can make a file that was once a podcast show up under podcasts once again. i can't find a compiled version of id3v2 nor any other type of editor that will allow me to edit that field. i tried Doug's script but that wouldn't let me edit the file by hand so that i could get it to show in the correct podcast.. it had to be named something different than any podcasts you are subscribed too. does anyone have or know of anything that will let me do this with either os x or windows? any help would be greatly appreciated



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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: interconnect on Jul 27, '07 11:30:25PM
ok, so i found a program called "helium music manager" (http://helium-music-manager.com/) that allows you to edit the subtitle field.. i added the word podcast (i actually entered the same phrase as several files i have in the podcast i want it to show up in) and it still didn't work. anyone have any ideas?

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Make iTunes treat an MP3 podcast as a regular MP3
Authored by: atavist on Nov 03, '12 01:45:38PM

The way I used was pretty simple, but does require some hardware.

Load up the podcast you want to edit (any program). Run a line from the headphones port to the line-in on a digital recorder. This gives the same audio as a new non-podcast tagged .mp3. Open that file into iTunes, edit the play length, save as an ACC. Now you have the exactly how you want it.



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