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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod Install
Tiger only hintI had an eMac that wouldn't take the Tiger DVD, so I've found this alternative (and rather simple) method to install Tiger on it...

Turn your iPod into a bootable Tiger installation disk. Here's how:
  1. Make a backup copy of your iPod if necessary (it will be erased in the next step!)
  2. Using Disk Utility, format (Erase) the iPod.
  3. Use the Restore feature in Disk Utility to create an image of the Tiger DVD on your iPod (drag the DVD into the source textbox; drag your iPod into the destination textbox).
  4. You can then plug your iPod in any Mac and launch the Install Tiger software, let it reboot, and follow the instructions to install it!
When you're done, you might want to re-erase the iPod, and restore the latest iPod Software on your iPod.

[robg adds: This tip could help those without a DVD drive in their machines, nor access to a traditional FireWire drive, install Tiger without sending back their media for CD versions.]
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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: djones on Jun 08, '05 10:14:36AM

Yep, did this with my iPod mini for my wife's 500MHz G3. Something that's worth mentioning, is that this method (from any Firewire drive, not just an iPod) is better than installing to the computer in question via target disc mode. The installation routine makes many decisions based on the hardware that the installer is being run on, and of course, is blind to any hardware surrounding the drive if you turn your iMac/eMac/iBook in target mode.

And AFAIK, you won't even have a usable install if you try to go from one processor family to another. IOW, if you have a G5 and do an install on your G4 iBook in target mode, your installation won't work.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: mrjerz on Jun 08, '05 10:49:31AM

How do you get around the need to boot from the install disk?



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: djones on Jun 08, '05 10:59:50AM

You don't get around it. You plug your iPod or Firewire drive into the computer you want to install Tiger to, and run the installer app. It handles everything from there.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: pixelnickel on Jun 08, '05 11:28:42AM

When restoring the Install DVD on the iPod, the iPod becomes bootable.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: IanWalker on Jun 08, '05 11:21:21AM

Doing an install from one machine to another in target mode works regardless of what processor you have in each.

For example, I did an install from a G5 to a G3 in target mode that didn't have a DVD drive. Worked fine.

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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: Loren on Jun 08, '05 11:54:50AM

It might not work going the other way, though. Booting off an older system to install on a newer one.

Not sure why you would want to, though.



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Possible with USB connect?
Authored by: jbdequardo on Jun 08, '05 11:27:02AM

Quick question--did you have to use firewire to connect the pod to the puter or could one just use a USB connect? That's my problem right now; wondering how best to upgrade an iMac with only USB connects.

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Possible with USB connect?
Authored by: wiz8 on Jun 09, '05 12:16:21AM

If it did work, it would not be worth the time spent using slow USB1. 10.4 requires computers with built-in FireWire.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: Shawn Parr on Jun 08, '05 01:49:23PM

Actually with a retail install disk the install is universal.

I manage computer labs at a university and my Tiger deployment is as follows:

1. Set up a G5 with the system load
2. User Carbon Copy Cloner to put it on anything necessary back to a B&W G3.
3. Go back to the PC labs were just about any minor hardware change requires a new image...

This is one of the few concerns I have about Mac OS X for Intel. When I get those machines, I may have to manage multiple images for Macs now.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod, hangs on boot
Authored by: volsk on Oct 05, '05 12:26:43PM

Everything went fine until the booting. The system just hangs on the grey screen with the wellknown apple...

I'm tryng to install on a PowerPC G4 AGP.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: @man on Jun 08, '05 10:19:14AM

i installed tiger using roughly the same method, but i used a partition on my hard drive instead. i backed up the partition to an external hard drive and did the restore thing, then opened using that partition and bammo.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: djones on Jun 08, '05 10:58:56AM

You don't get around it. You plug your iPod or Firewire drive into the computer you want to install Tiger to, and run the installer app. It handles everything from there.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: Loren on Jun 08, '05 11:57:05AM

If only there was a way to do this and keep the iPod working as an iPod. I'd love to have my iPod be a Tiger Installer, and also be an iPod.

Maybe if it could be partitioned, with the first partition being the normal iPod and the 2nd partition having the install.

Am I brave enough to try this?

Maybe later.



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10.4: Install Tiger onto an iPod
Authored by: Aet on Jun 08, '05 02:37:06PM

I didn't have any trouble installing Tiger on my iPod, and it still works fine in its typical music player and disk mode usage as well. Yet another reason why an iPod can be handy - emergency bootup disk. Just don't wipe the normal iPod format/software off of it beforehand and you should be fine. I used the lastest iPod Updater to clear out the prev Panther install I had on it by restoring it to factory condition, then went ahead and booted off the Install DVD, pointed it at the iPod, and off it went.



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Gack!
Authored by: Aet on Jun 08, '05 02:41:26PM

Though... using the iPod as an Installer for Tiger itself... not so sure about that. You could always give it a try - worst case, time down the drain and a reformat followed by restore due for your iPod.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: cerealx on Jun 08, '05 05:36:48PM

yes you can i did it 4 times already with a 2nd gen ipod!
just use the restore function in disk utility. don't erase.

i even installed and ran tiger on my ipod just to see if i could do it...awsome i tell you.....



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HINT OF THE WEEK!!!
Authored by: GORDYmac on Jun 08, '05 03:08:29PM

I have a Classic 5GB iPod that now has a purpose.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: freddiepingpong on Jun 08, '05 09:28:49PM

Just to note, you don't need to erase the iPod or firewire hard drive; there just needs to be sufficient space for copying.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: convi on Jun 09, '05 12:02:09AM

I have a Lacie Posket drive formatted HFS+ and restored the Tiger DVD via Disk Utility to it. It's seen as a start up volume but the Installer won't run and It dosn't want to boot off it. I'm trying to Install it on a iBook SE 466mhz 192M RAM. Everthing looks right.

Help?



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: timcrawf on Jun 09, '05 12:42:33AM

look at your configuration and then look at the System requirements for Tiger, I believe it calls for 256 MB of RAM



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: JackSim on Jun 09, '05 05:10:38AM

I just tried this hint to install Tiger on a 400 MHz G4 Power Mac with PCI graphics. The G4 wouldn't boot from my external drive (a DViCO 3.5" enclosure) so I had to plug the disk in the tower as slave to install. It worked just fine.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: dplace on Jun 09, '05 10:17:38AM

will this work with a Blue&White G3 ?

just sent for the CD trade in & am waiting . . . . .

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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: Anonymous on Jun 11, '05 08:03:03PM

I couldn't get this to work.

When I click the 'Restore' button a window pops up saying:

"Restore Failure
Lost connection to helper tool"

Why might this be?



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: apoc_metal on Mar 13, '06 10:02:24PM

same problem for me...

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Install Tiger from an iPod- start from OS X version
Authored by: rloney on Jun 15, '05 01:19:11PM

I did this and it works, but I made the mistake of getting rid of all my OS X versions before trying to start the Tiger installation process.
When I tried to start installing Tiger from OS 9, the installer could not select the iPod as a startup disk. I tried this from two different OS 9 installations.
After I installed OS 10.1 on a partition and started up from that OS, I was then able to successfully startup the tiger install process from the iPod.
So... I gather that to do this one needs to be booting from a version of OS X. The Tiger installer will not be able to select the iPod as a startup disk if starting in OS 9.

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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: aszunick on Aug 24, '05 07:06:05AM

I was successful in using the ipod mini to create a image of the 10.4 disk. However, I can't open the image. Tried everything I can think of to open it. Has anyone experienced this problem?
Arnie

aszunick@yahoo.com

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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: nsfredx on Sep 03, '05 01:55:55PM

with this way you can install dvd1 but how do you do to install dvd2
now there is a window on my screen display : insert disk 2
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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: pixelnickel on Apr 23, '06 07:55:53AM

I don't remember Tiger having more that one DVD.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: pixelnickel on Apr 23, '06 07:17:20AM

I don't think it should be an image. If you use "restore" in Disk Utility, it should look as if the actual DVD was on your iPod, so opening your iPod would show the "Install Mac OS X" program or something similar, not an image.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: ghostofwar on Feb 04, '06 10:02:42PM

you dont have to erase your ipod at all, just have sufficient space to store osx install DVD. (as someone else mentioned)

if you have the DVD, or an image file, go to disk utility and restore the image/DVD (either select disk image file, or DVD in your drive) to your ipod.

boot from the ipod (restart and hold option key on restart, select ipod)

osx installer should start automatically, and you roll from there.



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10.4: Install Tiger from an iPod
Authored by: junk666 on Oct 12, '09 02:45:21PM

I assume the iPod must be connected by Firewire? Else it won't be seen as a bootable disk by a PPC Mac.



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