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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application System 10.4
Tiger only hintWhy would anyone care? For one, the area just below the titlebar of the window is still there for you to store your shortcuts in. If you did an archive and install, then look in your Previous System folder, and follow it from there. You should probably keep the new version around, just in case it's needed in the future.

[robg adds: I was thrilled when I found out this worked -- my big complaint about the new System Preferences panel isn't the loss of the toolbar (though that hurt), but it's the loss of speed when using keyboard navigation. I like to open various panels by just typing a couple letters of each panel's name: En for Energy Saver, for instance. In 10.3, as you typed, each possible match would highlight in turn. When the one you wanted was lit, you just hit the space bar. In 10.4, Spotlight grabs the focus of your typing, so your text goes into the search box. In these movie clips, the task was the same: open Energy Saver, return to all (via Command-L), open QuicktTime, return to all, open International, and end after returning to all one last time. As you'll see, Spotlight's helping hand dramatically slows the process: I'm roughly twice as fast using the old panel versus the new panel, all due to Spotlight trying to "help me" figure out which panel I want to use. So for as long as it will work, I'll be sticking with the old version of the application (and it seems to run just fine!). As a side bonus, it's great having the toolbar back again...]
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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: lngtones on May 15, '05 03:03:36AM

Who is forcing you to use the search feature? You can still click in the new app...

It's no difference in speed, searching is for when you don't already know where something is.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: RobertBen on May 15, '05 05:03:54AM

If you really want speed to access the different Pref Panes just use Quicksilver, I even use it to switch from one Pane to another...



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: diamondsw on May 15, '05 03:04:07AM

Good to know, although I think the new typing structure makes a lot more sense, and I've actually found it faster for me due to the improved UI feedback.

But to each their own, and I'm glad this works for you!



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: pakkman781 on May 15, '05 03:11:22AM

THANK GOD!!! THE TOP BAR IS BACK!!! :D

The only oddity I've noticed is now the Spotlight and Hardware prefpanes have been moved to the "Other" Section.

But it works great!

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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: zpjet on May 15, '05 03:52:39AM

well if you're such a hard keyboard user, then you have probably Full Keyboard Access activated (Ctrl-F7), and then locating the icon you want by typing is just one tab key (to get out from the spotlight field) away. another difference is to hit space bar instead of return once selected.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: zpjet on May 15, '05 03:56:45AM
(or am i wrong? i think it was return key. i don't remember, it is long time ago. you know, in those days... before tiger...)

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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: tbirdsaw on May 15, '05 05:08:44AM

You know... if you hit tab, you can use the old style of navigating. Launch SysPrefs, hit tab, then type the first few letters. Seems to work for me.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: Spiken on May 15, '05 08:43:27AM

This is the bomb, much better than using an old app :)



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Doesn't work for me!
Authored by: Anidel on May 15, '05 10:04:59AM

Even if I press the TAB key it doesn's move the focus out of the search field...

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Well it does work... (you need to enable something else)
Authored by: microsquire on May 15, '05 11:13:34PM

In the Keyboard & Mouse prefs, you'll need to turn on Full Keyboard Access for 'all controls' not just 'text boxes and lists only'.

Whoooooooopie.



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Use Prefling
Authored by: skrak on May 15, '05 07:29:07AM

There is a free utility called "Prefling" compatible with Tiger that shows all the preference panes as a Dock menu. In my opinion this is the fastest way to reach an individual pane.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: peragrin on May 15, '05 08:30:59AM

am I the only one who doesn't see the problem.

Of course I only did an upgrade, (sorry my Panther install was only 6 months old, on my powerbook)

Then again i was missing features after the first time I installed tiger. dictionary wasn't working, and a isync wasn't either.

Another upgrade over tiger replaced the missing pieces. now watching the movie I see that I might be missing still yet more pieces.

i also never had a problem with iscroll2 or java, though I did have a problem with java with 10.3.9

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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: zeusr on May 15, '05 11:14:14AM

Uhh, the only difference I'm seeing between Panther and Tiger in the keyboard usage of System Prefs is the need to do an extra 'tab' (as in, just needing to press it instead of not having to) for typing the name of the panel to work.

My test was typing <tab><s><t><u><space> opened the Stuffit AVR panel.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: zeusr on May 15, '05 11:20:27AM

I realized the only way this works is if under the 'Keyboard & Mouse' panel, you select the 'All Controls' option for 'Full Keyboard Access' at the bottom of the 'Keyboard Shortcuts' tab.

Or hit <CNTL><F7>... :-)



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: tifighter on May 15, '05 03:55:05PM

Depending on how nested the function you're looking for is, it may be faster to type an exact search in the new syspref... it will bring up the correct tab for you so you don't have to select it once inside a particular preference.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: jzdziarski on May 16, '05 08:26:26AM

Does anyone know how to get the old preferences application off of the panther install cd?



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: johnsawyercjs on May 25, '05 04:48:55PM

Use the utility "Pacifist" to extract it from the installer CD.



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10.4: Use the 10.3 System Preferences application
Authored by: MattHaffner on May 23, '05 11:46:42AM

Those of use that are (or were, in my case) missing the old shortcuts and the bar are completely missing the (new) point. tifighter (2 posts ago) notes the real power now:

"Depending on how nested the function you're looking for is..."

And it bears repeating more explicitly. Next time you go to the pref panel, think of *exactly* what you're going in there for and type it in the box. Not just what panel you want to bring up, but what *setting* you want to change. Yes, you might be presented with a few choices, but when you select that choice, you are taken right to where you want to be. Not just the tab, but even into a sub-sheet on a tab.

For example, if you want to swap modifier keys type 'modifier' in to the search field and hit return (it's the first choice, so there's now arrow/pointer needed). You're taken right to the modifier pref *sheet* not just the tab with the button that gets you there. I was annoyed for a few days, but now I'm sold...



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