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Curious about the weather in various spots around the country and/or globe? WeatherPop, available in both a free and paid "Advance" version, puts an icon in your menubar that shows the current weather, including time of day (via the icon's background), temperature, and cloud cover. In free mode, that's about what you get, though you can store multiple locations and switch to them via a menu selection.

The Advance version, as seen at left (larger image), has all the bells and whistles. You can see the five-day forecast for the active city, as well as show the current conditions in up to two more locations, in the drop-down menu. In Advance mode's prefs, you can control which elements of the weather show up in the menu -- if you don't want to see dewpoint or the visibility, just disable them. You can also control the amount of color in the icons and the forecast update frequency.

I wish Advance would let you show more than two cities in the drop-down menu (it only takes one more row per city), and the prefs program (the prefs run as a separate application, complete with dock icon, as the main program is a faceless background app) quit on me once for no apparent reason. Other than that, though, it's worked great, and WeatherPop is a good way to keep an eye on the weather without a visit to a forecast website.
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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: mjalbers on Jan 10, '05 09:20:38AM
While WeatherPop is definitely a worthwhile program, I'd also direct people to check out Meteorologist, an opensource program that is feature-for-feature almost identicle to WeatherPop, and free to boot.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/heat-meteo


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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: restiffbard on Jan 10, '05 09:44:34AM

Mjalbers, thanks for the tip on meteo. Very nice. Quick setup.



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WeatherPop or Meteorologist
Authored by: JFutral on Jan 10, '05 11:12:00AM

I use both-- Meteorologist on a G4 Powerbook and WeatherPop on a Dual 1GHz MDD machine. They _both_ have very annoying quirks so be prepared.

Meteo has a bad habit of disappearing from the menu bar. It seems to occur primarily when a specified primary city's data is somehow corrupted or something, I'm not sure. And once it disappears it is almost impossible to get back until things work themselves out again. Also there seems to be some sort of HTML (or whatever code it uses) problems and the menu portion gets real wanky and you see a ton of source code, but no info. Some cities seem to never have a problem. Maybe one will be yours! :-)

WeatherPop has a nasty habit of quiting and leaving no trail as to why. I find I have to relaunch WeatherPop typically 2-3 times a day. Other times it goes for days just fine. But I have never had it last a week without needed to be relaunched.

I have yet to figure out any kind of pattern for either program in hopes of finding solutions. If anyone else knows the issues i would love to hear from you.

Thanks,
Joe Futral



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WeatherPop or Meteorologist
Authored by: dslipp on Jan 10, '05 11:30:00AM

Hi;

I'm one of the developers on the Meteorologist project, and we're working on that disappearing issue. One trick that has worked for a lot of users is to make sure you've deleted the old preferences before you run the newest version. That usually makes it much more stable and reliable.

If you're encountering that problem (or any others) quit Meteorologist, delete ~/Library/Preferences/com.heat.meteo.plist and start Meteorologist again. You'll have to reset your preferences and city list, but it should be much more stable afterwards.

For what it's worth, I've got over thirty cities in my list and Meteo has been running uninterrupted for over six months (minus the restarts to update the system.)


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Dave



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WeatherPop or Meteorologist
Authored by: JFutral on Jan 10, '05 01:58:58PM

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

Joe Futral



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WeatherPop or Meteorologist
Authored by: DavidRavenMoon on Jan 10, '05 04:36:28PM

I've been using WeatherPop for a while now, on two different Macs, and I've never had it quit. The worst problem I have with it is sometimes the icon shows the wrong time of day... but updating it fixes that.

I wonder why it's quitting on you?

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G4/466, 1 GB, Mac OS X 10.3.7



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WeatherPop or Meteorologist
Authored by: Vanish on Jan 19, '05 12:15:24AM

I purchased WeatherPop dvance when it was first released. The dissappearing bug is precisely why I converted to meteorologist several months ago and haven't looked back. Meteorologist works perfectly fie for me. There was recently a problem when Weather.com updated their pages, but the newly released Meteo 1.4.1 corrected the problem.

I highly recommend it.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: aptenergy on Jan 10, '05 11:24:10AM

For those of you who have had problems using Meteo, you should know that a 2.0 version is actively being worked on, with reworked preferences and a much better parsing system. If you would like to help, visit the SourceForge forums for the Meteorologist project.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: greggo on Jan 10, '05 11:26:51AM
You can list more than two cities by editing the "com.glu.WetherPop.plist" file. Quit WeatherPop and open the .plist file, the cities have this line in them...
<string>Austin, TX</string>
<key>locStatus</key>
<integer>3</integer>
The integer 3 is for the primary city, and 2 is for the other cities. If you have added a fourth city, it's integer is 0 -- just change it to 2 (two).

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WeatherPop - listing more cities
Authored by: FrankPtown on Jan 10, '05 07:50:50PM

Actually, the drop-down menus lists THREE cities other than your default city. Just make sure your default city is NOT a favorite. Then you have your three favorites lited in addition to your default city.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: koen on Jan 10, '05 11:26:59AM

Another alternative is WeatherDock, see

http://weatherdock.alwintroost.nl/


- Koen.



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WeatherMenu - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: Aet on Jan 31, '05 11:02:30AM
A menubar alternative is WeatherMenu.

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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: sfodden on Jan 10, '05 11:37:06AM

If you're not in the U.S., chances are that the forecasts produced by weather.com, wunderground.com and other U.S. sources will be wrong. For Toronto the current temp. is often correct, but the five day forecasts are wildly inaccurate, at least as judged agains the Environment Canada forecasts. I've done up a little chart for today's forecasts, just to show you what I mean. You can view it at:

http://www.yorku.ca/fodden/images/weather.jpg

It may be that Environment Canada doesn't have a feed that works for weather app developers, but unless that's so, I'd sure love to see someone in Canada do it right.

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Simon F.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: TheSpoonman on Jan 11, '05 09:14:24AM

The question is, though, which one is accurate? Do you have the data for the actual temps for those days?

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Answering the age-old question: which is more painful, going to work or gouging your eye out with a spoon?
www.workorspoon.com



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Good, yet bad..
Authored by: yellow on Jan 10, '05 11:44:08AM

I've been using WeatherPop (Advanced) for a very long time.

It's really quite helpful/useful.

The problem is, there's some sort of bug in it that causes it to crash and disappear from the menu-bar. The programmer cannot seem to nail this problem down, as it's been reported by many users for quite a few versions now.



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Good, yet bad..
Authored by: greggo on Jan 10, '05 12:44:39PM
You can use an AppleScript to keep it running...
on idle
	tell application "System Events" to get name of every process
	if the result does not contain "WeatherPopApp" then
		tell application "WeatherPop" to launch
	end if
	return 900 -- checks every 15 minutes adjust to suit your needs
end idle
Save it as a stay open application

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Good, yet bad..
Authored by: maddys_daddy on Jan 10, '05 09:39:55PM
Good idea, I've done this type of thing before. But a cleaner, less processor/memory intensive System Events tell statement would go a little something like this:
tell application "System Events"
	if not (exists process "WeatherPopApp") then
		tell application "WeatherPopApp"
			activate
		end tell
	end if
end tell


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If you use Firefox...
Authored by: parsec on Jan 10, '05 12:02:22PM

...and don't mind seeing the forecast only when using your browser, there's this extension called Forecastfox that I'm very happy with.
Link: http://forecastfox.mozdev.org/



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: prk on Jan 10, '05 12:08:31PM

I currently have WeatherMenu <http://www.afterten.com/products/weathermenu/index.html>. How does this one compare, has anyone used both? I've bought a license to WeatherMenu years ago, and it's worked well. Lately I've noticed it getting slower though.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: afb on Jan 10, '05 12:39:11PM

i've been using weathermenu for some time now. weatherpop doesn't give you a radar, which i think is a must. meteo has one, but it's a much more general map.

the unfortunate thing about weathermenu is that the developer has stopped releasing it as a menu extra, so you can't move it around in the menu bar.

if weatherpop showed a radar, i'd buy it; it has much nicer icons and such.

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now is the time for all good cows to come to the aid of their pasture.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: leebennett on Jan 10, '05 09:14:34PM

WeatherMenu is better, IMO. More data presentation options. More types of data available for display. Integrated radar viewer for your location and others. Better (more) types of graphical feedback in the menu bar icon (moon phases, fog, wind, cloud cover, etc.). Best of all, it's cheaper--$5.

Don't let the previous comment about it no longer being a menu extra trip you up. Virtually nothing is a menu extra any more, because Apple clamped down one what can be a Menu Extra. Basically only Apple's own stuff can be slid around and customized. Everything else appears in loaded order to the left of Apple's Menu Extras.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: leebennett on Jan 10, '05 09:17:22PM

Oh, I forgot to mention, the only thing that could be better with WeatherMenu is the performance hit when it's updating. That's why I'd rate WeatherMenu a 9 instead of a 10.

Consequently, if WeatherMenu is worth a 9, WeatherPop should be less than 9 since it has fewer features and costs more.



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WeatherDock
Authored by: paulio on Jan 10, '05 12:24:57PM
I use both-- Meteorologist on a G4 Powerbook and WeatherPop on a Dual 1GHz MDD machine. They _both_ have very annoying quirks so be prepared.
WeatherDock has none of these bugs and it's beautiful to look at and it's free.

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WeatherDock
Authored by: jctull on Jan 10, '05 12:48:04PM

I just tried out Weather Dock. Yes, it has pretty icons, but it lacks a radar image which I find critical. Living in Reno Nevada, it is incredibly useful to be able to see the regional radar in short order, especially with all the snow we have had lately. Meteorologist provides this in the menubar quite conveniently. WeatherDock appears to have no such feature.

Another gripe about WeatherDock: it seems to be an ad for weather.com/the weather channel. The icons are pretty though, fwiw.



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WeatherDock
Authored by: paulio on Jan 10, '05 02:22:37PM

All true.

The little ad doesn't bother me since wether.com is providing the data.



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WeatherDock
Authored by: prk on Jan 10, '05 05:39:49PM

What's up Reno! I'm just down the street in Silver Springs.



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WeatherPop - A menubar weather monitor
Authored by: dansroka on Jan 10, '05 04:54:43PM

I often have used both WeatherPop and Meteo for a while, and find problems with both. WP lacks the radar screen, although the formatting is nice. Meteo has the radar screen, but its formatting is quite messy and hard to read. And both often seem to give me different temps and conditions than what I get directly from Wunderground or Yahoo! Weather. Both are also ungracious crashers.

Lately, I've turn to Konfabulator for a simpler, yet more elegant (visually) solution. Two widgets do the job -- the built-in "The Weather", with its beautiful icons and layout and the not-bad "Radar Widget".



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WeatherMenu instead of WeatherPop
Authored by: DocMan on Jan 11, '05 09:51:02AM

I looked at WeatherPop a long time ago. And while it was a decent program, I found WeatherMenu to be more robust.

WeatherMenu lets you add as many cities to be monitored as you wish, and you can even have the cities show up as their own independant menus.

YMMV.

Doc



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WeatherPop - alternative
Authored by: project24 on Jan 11, '05 06:18:18PM
A simple alternative is to subscribe to a weather calendar (this is even for several international cities possible) at http://www.project24.info/weather.php.

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Don't forget konfabulator widgets
Authored by: spire on Jan 17, '05 04:18:36PM

They're great looking and updated regularly:

Weather Widget
http://www.konfabulator.com/

Radar Widget
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36148

Mini Weather Widget
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=35899

Weather Warning
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=35877



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Konfabulator Weather Widgets
Authored by: spire on Jan 17, '05 04:20:35PM

Don't forget Konfabulator Weather Widgets

They look fabulous and are updated regularly:

Weather Widget
http://www.konfabulator.com/

Radar Widget
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=36148

Mini Weather Widget
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=35899

Weather Warning
http://www.widgetgallery.com/view.php?widget=35877



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Another alternative: You Control
Authored by: tcurtin on Jan 18, '05 05:27:53PM

I tried a few of the weather apps, including what had been pthWeather (or something like that - it was free at the time.) It merged into a YouControl module, and I ended up paying for the full package. You can't get a radar map with it, but you can literally get just about everything else. (Weather in multiple cities, sunrise + sunset, pressure, visibility, 10-day forecast, yadda yadda.) Plus weather is only one of its tricks - scrolling stock ticker, rss newsfeeds, clock, calendar and address book access, multiple paste buffers, itunes control, hotkeys... All configurable like you wouldn't believe. Its $50, but it replaced so many different utilities and the trial (and since) has been so stable, I figured what the hell. Worth a look anyway: http://www.yousoftware.com/control/

(And nope, not with the company, just a satisfied customer.)

Whee! YMMV...
-Tim

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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin



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