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Last week, a browser add-on. This week, a browser. OmniWeb has been here before; OmniWeb 4 was actually the very first Pick of the Week, way back in February of 2002! At the time, OmniWeb was the only Cocoa browser for OS X, and it looked head and shoulders better than anything else out there.

A lot has changed in two-plus years. Now we have Safari, which is the dominant browser on the Mac. And we have Camino, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape, iCab, and probably another five or six I'm forgetting about. So why would anyone need OmniWeb's $29.95 solution when there's a glut of free alternatives out there? The short answer is "you don't." Nobody needs any one particular browser; we all gravitate to the ones we think work and look the best to us.

Long ago, I had stopped using OmniWeb 4, even though I'd purchased it, as there were just too many better free options. But OmniWeb 5 has now been released, and so I thought it merited another look on my part ... and I'm glad I took the time to check it out; it has some amazing new features. The Omni Group has built their new browser chock full of just about every geeky power tool you can think of. Read on for a few examples...

For starters, just in the realm of bookmarks and site features, you can ... create keywords to make reaching sites ultra fast (type "XHINTS" to come here, for instance), set an auto-update checker for each bookmark on its own schedule (hourly, daily, etc.), control each site's font size and color, text zoom, page colors, image loading, ad blocking, languages, security (disable JavaScript and/or cookies on a site by site basis), modify the user agent ("Identify to website as browser XYZ"), set link opening preferences, and specify a download location. And remember, all of those options can be unique for every site you bookmark. The preferences are filled with similar examples of attention to detail and the user experience -- as they say on their website, "Repeat after us: your web browser should not be a television. It's a software program. It should let you control stuff. I mean, who's in charge around here? The internet - or YOU?"

And then there's the one feature that made me fork over my $9.95 upgrade fee from version 4.0 ... that would be this:


That's probably a bit small to see well, so try the big version instead. That's a pop-up data entry box. It appears when you click the widget at the top right of the data entry form on the web page. So no longer are you stuck with those 30x30 input boxes; click the widget, resize the window as you wish, even import text from a file if you want! You can even find and replace text in this basic text editor window. When done, click the close widget, and the text is magically inserted into the web site's input form! Hoooray!

Then there are the tabs. OmniWeb 5 uses a vertical drawer to store tabs, instead of creating tabs across the top of the window. By default, the tab labels are relatively large icons of each tabbed page, but you can easily switch this to a one-row text view. The tabs are the one reason I marked OmniWeb down from a 10 to a 9 -- as unique and powerful as they are (the mini icons can be quite useful at times), I just can't quite get used to them. Perhaps it's too many years of Firefox / Mozilla / Safari tabs, but for whatever reason, they don't yet feel "natural" to me. I can, though, understand why Omni went this route. With the tabs in a drawer, you have much more room (vertical and horizontal, if your screen is wide enough) to view info about each tabbed page.

OmniWeb 5 also introduces the concept of workspaces and auto-saved web browsing windows. The concept is a bit tricky to understand, and takes some practice to master, but once you do, you'll love it. As a real-world example, today's security update came out, and I went to install it -- restart required, of course. With OmniWeb 5, you can save the state of your open browser windows in a workspace. It doesn't save the actual page content, but it does remember everything else - size, position, tab settings, etc. When you come back after the restart, just re-open the workspace, and you're right back where you were.

Finally, OmniWeb 5 feels very fast, and it still has, by far, the best source browser on the planet if you do a lot of web page source browsing.

So does the world need a paid-for browser in this era of free browsers? No ... but if you enjoy using well-written software with a ton of user-centric features, you might just want to give OmniWeb a trial run -- you may just decide it's worth the $30 (and at $10 for an upgrade, it was a no brainer decision for me now).
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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: jtrott on Sep 08, '04 01:03:56AM

I was using OminWeb 5 from the first public beta and I switched to it as my main browser part way through the process when the stability reached a level I was comfortable with. The features that I can't live without are the workspace saving and the site specific preferences. It's so useful to be able to set the font size for ccn.com specifically just for that site to be 1.1 times the normal size. I don't have to ever set it again and it doesn't effect viewing other websites. It also means I can set omniweb to block all cookies, then turn them on in a site by site basis when I need them. It's a very powerful feature. Plus omniweb sync's your bookmarks to any webdav server (like .mac) so that you can use the same bookmarks on multiple computers just like safai with isync/.mac.
All this using the same web engine that safari uses with almost the same speed.
I'd recommend everyone downloads the demo version and gives it a try just to see what you are missing. The demo version is fully functional except it draws a demo graphic over your webpage if you are idle too long.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: gourls on Sep 08, '04 06:18:44PM

OmniWeb5-cool. That's all I can say. Not much else I can say, knowing me. Well, the thing about the computer models was pretty good. Back to the hint: I love surfing the web (and writing articles along the way), so a browser like that would be a dream for me. I highly doubt we will get it, though.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: prk on Sep 08, '04 01:32:26AM

At first I was cautious about buying Omniweb since I was burned with version 4.5. But after using version 5 release I was very happy to see that Omni got it right. Stable, features, everything a surfer needs in a web browser.

I've bought a new license for v5. I'm glad I did. The only down side is that they are using the older web core. But soon the new version will be available and I will be extremely happy. I really miss tool tips and shadowed text.



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Highly recommended - and a speed tip
Authored by: theNonsuch on Sep 08, '04 01:42:06AM

I agree - Omniweb has really matured and is totally worthy. They're apparently working on a 5.1 version which will have the most up-to-date Webcore and Javascriptcore integrated - version 5 has an older version built-in. The vast majority of people will not really notice the difference, but it's worth mentioning.

A speed tip: to speed up Omniweb to the point where it is equally as fast as Safari (or even a little bit faster: YMMV), uncheck the preferences "start drawing before entirely loaded" and "show image placeholders while loading", under the Omniweb "Display" prefpane.

Unchecking these two has really sped up page loads for me

At any rate, I also think this is worth the price.



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Highly recommended - and a speed tip
Authored by: szabesz on Sep 08, '04 07:30:51AM

I have an 600Mhz iBook, and OmniWeb is painfully slow on it. All the free browsers are speedy but not this one. It is really slow even after downloading the whole page, scrolling and all kinds of other user actions are sluggish.



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Highly recommended - and a speed tip
Authored by: szabesz on Sep 08, '04 07:35:41AM

"The vast majority of people will not really notice the difference, but it's worth mentioning."

About 30% of the web sites I am frequently visiting is not perfect in OmniWeb. For example iFrames look ugly (like in the Linux version of Mozilla clones). So I have noticed the difference.



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Highly recommended - and a speed tip
Authored by: theNonsuch on Sep 08, '04 08:39:02AM

iframes are supported in all versions of webcore, so it's very possible it's the page or the code and not Omniweb. Do they work in Safari?



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Highly recommended - and a speed tip
Authored by: chancer on Sep 08, '04 10:27:21PM

I also have a 600mHz iBook, and even after following this speed tip, OmniWeb is painfully, horribly, unusably slow. Too bad. I like the features. But it's so slow it reminds me of dialing up on my old PPC 6100.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: vocaro on Sep 08, '04 02:21:50AM

I had been using Mozilla for about six years, partly due to necessity (as a Linux user, it was pretty much the only option), but mainly it was just loyalty -- Mozilla was the first browser to reveal how broken Internet Explorer was and how much better the web could be.

But after switching to the Mac last April and running Camino daily, I just gave up. Camino has some nice features, but it's simply not good enough. I kept running into bugs that annoyed me: blinking cursors stuck in the middle of the screen, an inability to autofill forms, site icons that kept disappearing from bookmarks, etc. I tried to fix the holes by hacking the source and sending patches to the maintainers, but I'm not an undergrad anymore and no longer have time to write code for free. And I didn't want to switch to Safari (Gecko loyalty again) or to the standard Mozilla suite for Mac (I'm just too much in love with Cocoa and Aqua).

And yet, just last Thursday, I happened to be browsing OmniGroup's site and decided to give OmniWeb a try. I loved what I saw! Rob's review is right on the money: OmniWeb includes all sorts of thoughtful features. Clearly, the developers are trying to make the web experience even better than it is with Mozilla, just as Mozilla was trying to make it better than with Internet Explorer. The thumbnail tabs are cool, the autosave is a must-have, there are dozens of configuration options, and none of Camino's bugs.

I thought to myself, "Why am I suffering with Camino, hacking its code and trying to make it better, when I could spend $20 [I'm a grad student and get the academic discount] and get a better browser right now?" Obviously, it was an easy decision, and although I'm kinda sad about leaving Gecko, I'm a happier surfer now.

Note, however, that OmniWeb is certainly not perfect. In particular, the autofill feature sometimes fails, there's no type-ahead find, and images don't shrink to fit the window size. Nevertheless, if you've been using Camino like I was, just waiting and hoping for it to get better, I suggest you give OmniWeb a shot.

Trevor

P.S. There's one thing that Rob didn't mention in his review: One of the reasons why OmniWeb improved so much in version 5 is that it is now based on KHTML, the same layout engine used by Safari. So if you purchase OmniWeb, you aren't really buying a browser; you're just buying a different skin for Safari. Still, it's a much nicer skin and well worth the price in my opinion.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: syko on Sep 08, '04 03:18:55AM

Camino all the way! :D

It's little annoyances I can live with.. and I have been for quite some time now..

If Safari would save name/pws in the keychain, like they should-- you'd think Apple would've implemented this LONG ago, I'll go to Safari.. but for now, Camino works great..

If Omniweb had 'real' tabs where they belong, I'd fork up $ for it as well.. (it saves to keychain)



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: lavar78 on Sep 08, '04 07:28:26AM
If Safari would save name/pws in the keychain, like they should-- you'd think Apple would've implemented this LONG ago, I'll go to Safari..
Well, by all means, go to Safari. It saves names and passwords in the keychain and has done so for a while.

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: syko on Sep 08, '04 11:48:07AM

"Well, by all means, go to Safari. It saves names and passwords in the keychain and has done so for a while."

since when?

i just tried it again and it doesn't....



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: michaelj on Sep 08, '04 12:52:41PM

syko, look at Safari's preferences. Click the auto fill tab. By default the option to store user names and passwords is unchecked. If you simply check that box, Safari will store that data. This option has been there since the first release.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: syko on Sep 09, '04 02:10:51AM

i stand corrected!!

now why didn't apple enable this by default??

ARGGGG



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: lavar78 on Sep 09, '04 09:34:45AM

It shouldn't be enabled by default. There are privacy issues, so it's best to let the user enable it if desired.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: Blah on Sep 11, '04 04:11:46PM
It shouldn't be enabled by default. There are privacy issues, so it's best to let the user enable it if desired.
You beat me to it - but that's absolutely correct. I would never enable or use that on any computer. And the fact that various apps gather personal info from other apps (like address book) automatically and invisibly sucks. As a privacy advocate myself, I won't use Address Book at all for that reason.

The thing that's really sad is that browsers (most, if not all) have cookies fully enabled by default across the board. Leading to the pervasive cookie abuse we have now. At least OW lets you specify what you'll accept with fine granularity. I'm going to give it another look....



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: theNonsuch on Sep 08, '04 08:40:48AM
Um, Omniweb does save usernames and passwords in the Keychain. They also support the same method as Safari, so if you've saved username / password combinations in Safari, OW will be able to use them, too.

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: theNonsuch on Sep 08, '04 08:46:18AM

Sorry, misread your comment. That's what happens when you comment before coffee. :(



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: afb on Sep 08, '04 06:23:59PM

The most annoying thing about the passwords is that, while all three of these browsers do store passwords in the keychain, they all store them differently, so none of them can access the others' stored passwords. :-(

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Keychain sharing
Authored by: sjk on Sep 09, '04 02:24:41PM

Hmm, Safari and OW5 share Keychain entries fine for me. Sometimes OW5 prompts to get access to entries originally created with Safari and clicking "always allow" stops the prompting on followup visits.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: dogboy on Sep 08, '04 05:32:13AM

OW5 is great. Here are some more tips:

You can drag a link to the tab drawer and it will open up there, in a new tab. Useful for those sites in which cmd-click won't work.

Use the option key – Option-dragging a tab will create another instance of it.

Also try double clicking the tabs and the favicons in the address bar.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: poenn on Sep 08, '04 08:22:41AM

finally some people that really appreciate omniweb! :-)

ow always was my main browser, even with a lot of sites not working correctly with version 4!
ow5 has what no other browser on any platform can deliver.

thank you omnigroup for an outstanding product with outstanding support!

pönn



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: JKT on Sep 08, '04 12:56:35PM

I'm surprised that you marked OW down due to its tab implementation. OK you might not like the style, that is your POV, but there are other reasons why OmniGroup went this route - one is so you can manipulate the tabs using standard Mac UI conventions: drag and drop them to re-order them in the drawer, copy/cut paste them to the drawers of other windows (or into other Workspaces), copy/paste them to other applications (where they will appear as the URL for the tab), option-drag to duplicate, shift/command-click to select multiple tabs at once, double click to open in a new window (and close in the old) and so forth. So if anything, you can deduct one for the style and add one or two for the bonus of these added features.

FWIW, one thing you may not have realised about the text editor pane is that you can choose your own font and font size for it too, so not only do you avoid tiny text input areas, but you can also choose a bigger font that you can actually read ;-)

Anybody who wants to give workspaces a try but is unsure how the concept works can visit my website here to download some I've generated (which is another feature - you can send other OW5 users your Workspaces):

http://homepage.mac.com/jtyzack/PublicFS/FileSharing44.html

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: robg on Sep 08, '04 05:15:43PM

The thing that bothers me about the vertical tabs is that they're just not as usable for my workflow. I use about 15 to 25 tabs when doing the daily site updates, and the horizontal layout is ingrained in my muscle memory, and seems notably faster to me even after using OW for a couple of weeks. Perhpas I'll eventually get over it, but even if I don't, the other great features more than make up for the one minor irritation I have with the tabs.

But you're right -- there were good reasons they went this route, and I don't disagree with their decision. It just doesn't quite work for me (yet?), but I love everything else about the browser.

-rob.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: sjk on Sep 09, '04 12:26:02AM

Thanks for the PofW article, Rob.

You summarized pretty much how I feel about OW5 tabs. I think there's too much eye motion shifting focus of attention to the left or right to glance at tabs while other information (e.g. location bar) is being presented horizontally. And, as hessi mentioned, they can take up too much horizontal space on a 1024x768 display, leaving little (if any) desktop visible for drag/drop, tho' Expos helps ease that issue. I hope OmniGroup does consider implementing horizontal tabs in a future release since the combination of the two styles would be useful for different browsing contexts, as John Siracusa convincingly argued at Ars Technica.

The popup text edit pane is quite nice. And there are no accesskeys interfering with control-prefixed emacs-style navigation, which remains a serious nuisance for me during input with Safari.

Something I can't find are modifier key-click combinations for Open Link (in New|Behind) Window, like Cmd-Opt[-Shift]-click in Safari. The Cmd-Opt combo seems missing for OW5 tho' I requested it and thought it would be in the 5.0 release. That's one of those muscle memory efficiency things that makes it awkward when switching between Safari and OW5.

Site preferences are nice, especially text zoom. I prefer PithHelmet content filtering to OW5 ad blocking, as mentioned in another post. Filtered pages often look more bloated in OW5 than Safari.

Auto-saving is much appreciated. That's something I first encountered using Opera on Solaris several years ago. And launching with the Shift key modifier to get a new, empty workspace is helpful to avoid restoring an unwanted auto-saved session.

That's my OW5 mini-review. I'll pay the modest and fair upgrade fee when the demo period ends.



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Adblock for Omniweb?
Authored by: bombcar on Sep 08, '04 02:04:25PM

I use adblock.mozdev.org for Firefox and PithHelmet for Safari, is there an equivalent for Omniweb? Because if there is, I'm there.



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Adblock for Omniweb?
Authored by: maddys_daddy on Sep 08, '04 02:53:11PM

OW5 has ad-blocking features built in. I've never used the two you mention, so I can't compare their functionality, but I can assure you that it works nicely in OW5. It does so by both url and image size (standard banner ad sizes), both of which you can customize. And if you mouse over a spot where a blocked image is, the image url pops up, allowing you to see where it's being served from. If it's not an ad banner, just click on it, and the image will load. I love this browser so much, I'm just too broke to buy it. Bummer. :(



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OmniWeb 5 performance
Authored by: ddldreaming on Sep 08, '04 03:07:42PM

I've been using the OmniWeb demo for the past couple of weeks, and while I adore many of its features, it's got some performance problems that make me wary of sticking with it. It uses noticeably more memory than Mozilla or Safari do for the same pages, and doesn't appear to free it as quickly. It also sometimes starts pegging the CPU for no reason (I think most often after rendering a MapQuest or MacUpdate page). When this happens the only remedy is to quit and reload (closing the suspect pages doesn't help). Has anyone else seen this sort of problem crop up?

Of course, when I do need to quit, or when it crashes, its workspace-preservation features are a godsend!

To its credit, Omni has a dedicated team who respond to their customers; when I sent a note about my concerns I got a quick reply from Troy suggesting that v5.1 (with its newer WebCore) may address these issues.



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small drawbacks, otherwise just perfect
Authored by: hessi on Sep 08, '04 07:15:20PM

Yes, you are right, OW5 is really worth a Pick of the Week.

I'm also not sure about the tabs, on my 12" iBook, it just takes too much space.
One really good thing you haven't mentioned, especially compared to Safari, is that OW5 is able to reload a bunch of tabs and you are still able to switch between them. With Safari, sometimes even while reloading only one tab, but most of the time while reloading the second one, you only see the disc and can't do anything for a long time. Not good.

However, there are a few drawbacks:

- rendering and compatibility: Two of my favourite websites look a little weired in OW (http://www.boxer-forum.de) or simply don't work (http://epaper.sueddeutsche.de). Same with GMail, "Loading..." , that's it.
- opening an article of an rss-feed through the dock (right-click on icon, choose feed, choose article) seems to be only possible in a new window, not in a new tab?
- checkboxes aren't included in the keyboard-tabs. If I enter username and password on a site and would like to set a checkbox "set cookie", i can't get the focus on the checkbox via tab.

These are the only drawbacks I found so far, and this is not enough bad stuff, so yes, I am considering buying a license.



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small drawbacks, otherwise just perfect
Authored by: hessi on Sep 08, '04 07:26:39PM

well, I am impressed.
I just wrote pretty much the same stuff I wrote here as a feedback to Omni, and 10 minutes later, I got an answer.

- boxer-forum.de: fixed in 5.1

- sueddeutsche.de: doesn't work in Safari either, seems to be a bug in WebCore (yes, he's right. I use Camino for this page, unfortunately Apple doesn't respond to feedback as Omni does)

- rss in new tab: seems to be on the todo-list, but might be tough to implement and take some time

- checkboxes: fixed in 5.1

Well, it is worth buying their stuff just for their support-team ...



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: d00d on Sep 08, '04 07:33:43PM

I want to like Omniweb, I really do. There are two things holding me back:

  1. I hate the thumbnail tabs. I hate that they're vertical. I hate that they take up so much space. Call me a purist. Call me stubborn. I want regular tabs. With favicons would make it even nicer.
  2. Don't just leave a blank space where ads were. Take them out entirely or give an option to. I make my own carefully crafted regular expression rules and I'm not concerned about false positives or pages looking different.

If I could have those two things, I'd plunk my $30 immediately with no hesitation.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: disenchanted on Sep 08, '04 10:42:14PM

me too. i HATE their version of adblocking. I sent them an email describing my hatred for it and how to improve it (which was almost exactly what was stated above) and they replied back and said that most users arent advanced enough to figure out that there are no ads on the page because of the built in adblocker. So they opt to keep the boxes and pop up the urls whenever you mouse over them. I think id rather have the ads. its just as intrusive, especially when you get the mouse over pop up.

for that sole reason I do not use it. Pith helmet for safari is sooo much better than omniwebs adblocker.

and one other reason why i dont use it:

It wont load gmail!!!!!



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: hombre on Sep 09, '04 01:25:12AM

I am baffled by this view of the tabs. They only take up horizontal space, of which I have a surplus, and, compared to Safari, they actually free up vertical space which, it seems to me, is perennially in short supply. Plus, you can make them smaller, anyway, by using the list view instead (though I understand some "traditionalists" will still not be able to adjust to the different orientation). I much prefer the OmniWeb tab scheme to Safari's. When I find myself back in Safari from time to time and have to deal with what strikes me as a primitive approach to tabs, I actually feel disheartened.

On the other hand, I abhor the ad-blocking. It is shamefully inelegant in my view. Safari + PithHelmet is a vastly superior solution to ads.



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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: d00d on Sep 10, '04 12:58:31AM

The thing is though, I don't like widescreen. I have a regular aspect 20" LCD display (a Formac) and I use a Powerbook 12". The excessive horizontal space taken by the tabs (even in list mode) are a nuisance to me. As for Safari tabs taking up vertical space, they take at most, what, like 10-15 pixels? That's a far cry from Omniweb's huge amount on the side and I don't find it significant enough to make a difference. Further, I read side to side. Reading down a list vertically feels like a chore.

Most of this is personal preference I'll admit. But if they want me to be a paying customer, they better cater to what I want. The free alternatives already do. Just give me the option. I don't care if their style is even the default. I just want traditional tabs. It's non-negotiable if they want my $30.



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vertical tabs
Authored by: sjk on Sep 10, '04 06:46:36PM
Further, I read side to side. Reading down a list vertically feels like a chore.

Yep, that's a nicely succinct description of what I wrote earlier about "too much eye motion shifting focus of attention" with OW5's vertical tabs.

That may be contributing to objections some people have with the implementation even when they don't specifically express it. I haven't seen any indication from OmniGroup that they feel this is a significant usability issue for certain (potential) customers, where the benefits simply aren't compelling enough to overcome weaknesses.

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: JKT on Sep 09, '04 08:25:56AM
For those of you who wish to use a stylesheet solution to ad blocking, etc. copy/paste the following into Terminal:
defaults write com.omnigroup.omniweb5 OWUserStyleSheetLocation "file:///path/to/stylesheet"
Then replace the path/to/stylesheet with the path to your custom stylesheet and press enter to execute it. This is obviously an unsupported solution, but it does indicate that Omnigroup are at least considering including custom stylesheet selection for inclusion in later versions of OW.

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OmniWeb 5 - NOT VERY Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: max_zorn on Sep 08, '04 09:40:40PM

It is still impossible to play chess
on yahoo.com - I have been emailing
the friendly folks at OmniGroup
for years now... (Safari sort of works,
and I hate to write that MS IE on classic
was the best...).

Anyone knows why?

Max



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OmniWeb 5 - NOT VERY Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: daiyi on Sep 08, '04 11:57:07PM

Yahoo support for Macs is terrible. I did notice the other day, however, that Firefox worked better with some things on Yahoo.



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OmniWeb 5 - NOT VERY Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: gourls on Sep 15, '04 06:13:06PM
YES!!! Thank you for saying that. Yahoo, like, doesn't let Mac users do, like, anything! Here's to my new hero!

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OmniWeb 5 - Powerful and feature-laden web browser
Authored by: philcozz on Sep 09, '04 10:56:41AM

One thing that I wish I could change:

Type-ahead feature in OW5; You need to know the very first letters/word of a link for the type-ahead feature to find it. In FireFox, Camino, & Safari (with Saft) you can type ANY part of a link and it will find it. An example of this being annoying was when I went to a website loaded with links and I tried to type-ahead to one I knew was on the page, but couldn't find it. The problem was I didn't know that the word "The" was at the start of the link.

I have become quite a fan of type-ahead, but this restriction of needing to type the first letters of links seems unnecessary at least considering how other browsers deal with the feature.

I know Omni has placed a "defaults list" at http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/OmniWeb/DefaultsList-5.0.html so that you can make modifications to the browser, but I can't seem to find one that addresses my issue.

Does anyone know of a way to change this behavior in OW5?

Thanks!



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