Jun 22, '04 08:57:00AM • Contributed by: Anonymous
This is a lot better then forwarding emails, because the original sender data stays intact.
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Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
Jun 22, '04 08:57:00AM • Contributed by: Anonymous
I am really enjoying my new gmail account, but dont want to give up Mail.app just yet. To receive emails in both places, I set up a new rule in Mail.app to redirect all new emails to my gmail account. This works great, because once an email has been downloaded with Mail, I can access it via gmail as well. My Mac is always on, so new emails should show up in my gmail account within five minutes unless my internet connection dies.
This is a lot better then forwarding emails, because the original sender data stays intact.
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Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
How do you get a gmail account?
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
at the moment you have to receive an invitation from someone who already has a gmail account. Not to worry though, I expect gmail to go live soon and then you can just sign up.
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
Slightly off topic, but you may want to think twice about keeping all of your mail on gmail for a couple of reasons.
There's this one, which then leads you to this.
Just a fair warning. And I do use gmail, but I would much rather keep my business on my own computer and minumize the chances of it becoming a public database.
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
Yea but gmail creapy guy just hates google (see google-watch.com)... cause his site didn't get a good page ranking! So basically you can't trust him.
Check out Google-Watch-Watch.com
And you know what... every ISP "reads" your email... some check for spam... virisus...
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
I agree with whatevrnvrmind. Gmail is creepy. I won't use it. And I would think twice before sending email to a gmail account. Remember, it's not only the gmail account user's email that will be indexed and saved "forever", but any email they receive from anyone, even email that they subsequently delete.
I suppose I'm kind of lucky and have the option of saying "no" to gmail since I have my own domain and run my own email server. But still, the idea of gmail is scary and I'm not sure I'd use it even if I didn't have my own server. Of course, nothing can stop all the emails that I send/receive from being scanned/saved by some unscrupulous intermediate server that the email goes through. At least gmail is up front about it and comes right out and says, "Yea, we're gonna save it. You have been warned." I wish all my friends had PGP installed. :-)
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
Most of the privacy concerns are moot, I think. Relatively speaking, they're not doing anything different from MSN, Yahoo, or any other free email provider when it comes to your email content. How do you think spam blockers work? By NOT scanning your email somehow? The entire difference lies in two things: 1) AdWords 2) Google being open and honest about their practices and intentions. People don't like the contents of their emails being used for marketing purposes. I can respect that, but on the other hand I think it leads to a general improvement of the web. For example, I've been looking into switching web hosts recently, and was talking about it with a friend via email. Right next to my friend's email, which listed a couple of hosts he had heard good things about, was an AdWords provided list of web hosts. To me, that's an excellent thing - direct, unobtrusive, and relevant advertising. The web doesn't work for free any more folks, and more relevant advertising leads to more clicks, which leads to more buys, which leads to more money for the site that originally had the banner. More money for the site means better features and service. To me, that's win-win. So this brings up the question of HOW they scan your email. Quite frankly, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it up until the point that they start databasing and cataloging what I talk about. The nice part is, they don't do that. Now you might read somewhere that Google's policies are subject to change. Ignoring the fact that EVERY free service on the internet has policies subject to change, Google can't even change the one everyone is worried about. Google is in California, and California passed a bill specifically targeted at GMail that will "explicitly allow e-mail and instant-messaging providers to scan the content of messages to deliver advertisements, as long as the providers meet certain restrictions on how the data is used. Information gleaned from e-mails cannot be retained, shared with a third party, or shown to any employee or other "natural person." In addition, messaging providers must permanently delete messages at the request of customers." (source) So I ask, in what way is this any worse, in any way whatsoever, than any other free email service?
Is Gmail "Creepier" Than Any Other Service?
I don't disagree that Gmail is any worse than any other free email service. I was going to say that in my original response, but forgot. Personally, I don't use them either.
Is Gmail "Creepier" Than Any Other Service?
Well, what you're saying makes perfect sense - if you want your stuff to stay private, you don't rely on someone else to store it and transfer it, regardless of how secure they might say they are. That applies to everything, be it email or your grandmother's broach in a deposit box at the bank. Whenever you depend on someone else to take care of something, you have to trust them.
Is Gmail "Creepier" Than Any Other Service?
This seems to be a common misconception that people have. Gmail does *not* put ads in the email that Gmail users send out. When a Gmail user opens an email, there is an AdWords box off to the right of the email showing 'related' ads. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is Gmail "Creepier" Than Any Other Service?
I think it's a reasonable mistake for users to make. All of the ads (or little extras, whatever you want to call them) that you see when using other email services are appended directly onto the end of the email, and sometimes prepended at the beginning. If gmail's mechanism is different, only displaying ads to the user reading the email through gmail's web interface, then good for them. That's a step in the right direction, imo. I wonder if they'll offer email forwarding to external accounts? If so, what do they do about the ads in those case?
Is Gmail "Creepier" Than Any Other Service?
Gmail Creapy? Its run buy the guy who runs google watch... and he hates google because he didn't like his page ranking... checking out Google-Watch-Watch.com. I don't trust Gmail is Creapy nor Google Watch, I have more faith in Google than I have in Daniel Brandt.
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
I'm pretty much limiting my gmail account for forum registration, mailing lists, etc. and anything else non-personal in nature. Now that I don't have to worry about space, I can go ahead and use those web notifications to postings, etc.
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
I've been doing this for a while. Redirecting email "usually" works, but I have had problems.
Redirect new Mail.app mail to gmail (or any service)
I *just* figured out why entourage was mucking up my mail. Entourage doesn't like to talk to my Domino IMAP server at work, so I've been having mail.app check my Notes account and redirect all mail to that account to my .mac account. Plain text mail gets through fine but anything with formatting gets screwed up and only shows up as a mime-attachment. Oddly enough, that email is messed up in both mail.app and Entourage.
what about junk mail?
I've been using a rule in Mail to redirect every message to gmail, but unfortunately I can't find a way to redirect only Not-Junk messages. Quite frankly I see no need for those to get passed along :). The best solution I have so far is a filter I set up within gmail to automatically trash messages with my mail server's SPAM flag in the subject, but the number the mail server catches really pales in comparison to the number that apple's Mail nabs.
what about junk mail?
As the last entry in each of your rules, set the action "Stop Evaluating Rules". Put the redirect as your last rule.
WARNING!
I attempted to use the batch redirect method described here to move several thousand messages from a university account to GMail, with disastrous results.
Mail.app successfully sent all the messages I wanted to move, but GMail only accepted the first 525 messages, after which all messages were returned to the original senders, which, because I was redirecting mail, were the actual original senders! Thus, hundreds of people I e-mailed in 2001 received as many as 400 "Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours" messages that were bounced from GMail. I don't know whether GMail thought I was getting spammed and so shut out all incoming messages after a certain number, or if there is a daily quota of sorts. Whatever the reason, be careful with this technique! |
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