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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus Apps

A number of menu bar applications from PTH Consulting no longer display their menus in 10.3.x Panther. There is no official fix, as the company has joined with You Software and many beloved PTH apps are now unavailable for download. The unofficial instructions were also removed from the web site. Thanks to members of the X4U Mac OS X email list for digging this up!

The PTH Menu Bar applications do not work properly under Mac OS X 10.3. Specifically, the menus aren't being shown in the Menu Bar when the application is selected. There are two ways around this problem. The first option is to edit the Info.plist file in the application wrapper and remove two lines. This will cause the application to show up on the Dock, and will also cause their menus to display properly. To do this, follow these steps:

  1. Select the app in the Finder
  2. Control click on the app and select Show Package Contents
  3. Double click on the Contents folder
  4. Control click on the "Info.plist" file and use the "Open With" command to open using TextEdit
  5. Remove the following two lines:
    <key>NSUIElement</key>                                                          
    <string>1</string>
  6. Save the file
You may also need to move the application from its current location to another directory and back again. This will cause OS X to re-read the Info.plist file. The second method is to just use the command key equivalents to access the desired menu items. To do this follow these steps:
  1. Click on the application icon in the Menu Bar to activate the application
  2. Type in an appropriate key combination:
    • Command , : Show Preference
    • Command q : Quit
    • Shift-Command ? : Show Help
[robg adds: I did this with PTH Pasteboard just after Panther shipped, as it's probably the single most-used application on my machine (next to the Finder!). I'm looking forward to seeing what You Software brings to the table, but until they ship something, PTH Pasteboard will continue to be my multi-clipboard of choice.]
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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: davidosus on Feb 09, '04 11:01:55AM

Would anyone know how to make the time appear on the far right in the menu bar?

This is broken under Panther - PTH Clock now displays the time to the left of all Apple items.

Could it be something in the plist that needs editing?



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: strazi on Feb 09, '04 08:36:13PM

Curious about this too, have resorted to using wClock because of it.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: osxpounder on Feb 09, '04 11:49:34AM

I got excited when I saw this tip, but it isn't working for me in 10.3.2. I edited the .plist file as described, and also moved the app to another folder.

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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: yubbie2 on Feb 09, '04 12:08:03PM

try selecting pthpasteboard (click the icon in the menu), hit command-Q to quit, then relaunch it.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: mbjones on Feb 09, '04 12:06:28PM

You Software is shipping You Control which features Pasteboard's functionality among other things, RSS News, Stocks, Weather (although I'm still using weatherpop instead), iCal and address book access all from the menu bar or screen corners (No real replacement for CPU monitor though). Plus they're supposed to be releasing other modules in the future. Very spiffy software but a bit pricey at $50.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: Zo-1 on Mar 31, '04 07:18:16PM

. . .now $70.

Don't ask me.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: yubbie2 on Feb 09, '04 12:10:28PM

pretty annoying how it adds a fairly useless icon to the dock though. i thought the whole point was to add a function to the menubar. oh well.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: dombett on Feb 09, '04 01:03:01PM

That's odd. I'm running 10.3.2 and PTH Pasteboard 1.3.2 and it works just fine without having to make any changes. Just lucky I guess. Of course, that may change with the next OS revision, so it's nice to have these instructions here just in case.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: brianw on Feb 09, '04 01:41:58PM

PTHiTunesNotifier unfortunately doesn't work properly under Panther. If you try to quit iTunes, it will continually relaunch it. Synergy is a good replacement utility (especially with some of the new buttons in 1.0.3 and later). PTHClock is definitely indispensable and I'm glad people are working to keep the free version functional!



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: Chronologist on Feb 09, '04 04:47:46PM

I'm not sure if this is the case, but I had that problem as well, but it went away - I think - after getting either the 10.3.1 or 10.3.2 update. I'm not sure if it was that, or perhaps an iTunes update, but I haven't had the relaunching problem for awhile.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: ether on Feb 09, '04 04:08:32PM

One gotcha that killed me for a long time after switching to Panther
was the fact that PTH Pasteboard's pages would suddenly start
to appear on the screen without mouseover when they were
supposed to be hidden off the left edge. Restarting Pasteboard
was required to fix it, because the preferences were ineffectual.

I finally found out that if you activate expose's clear screen function
(by mousing into the activating corner, for example) while the PTH
window is showing, it screws everything up. I moved the PTH window
so that it's not near the expose' corner. Now I'm happy again.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: bluehz on Feb 09, '04 04:54:30PM

I really mourn the passing of PTH in particular PTHClipboard, one of those "can't live without" utilities. Unfortunately it barely works in Panther. Besides the display problem written about here, it also has problems selecting items from the window that appears (it always pastes the first entry no matter what you click on), and other oddities. But you know what - I tried ALL the other multi-clipboard apps and most are bloatware and just plain bad. That was the beauty of PTHPasteboard - simple, small footprint, and it worked.

So you say - why not just by their new utility? Well other than the price - the new software is WAY MORE than I want (can you say bloatware deluxe), so even if it were free - I would still not use it. Just wish we could get an updated PTHClipboard... sigh... sigh...



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: Kalki on Feb 21, '04 08:58:48PM

I too had been frustrated that when opening the list that the old click and paste function was broken by Panther, but discovered by accident that DRAGGING items in the list to where you want them will work for both text and images! I usually keep 23 items in my clip list and can use them all again. I hope this helps. I am using PTHPasteboard 3.1.2 and OS X 10.3.2



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: jiclark on Feb 09, '04 05:13:59PM

Funny that so many people are reporting problems with PTHPasteboard in Panther... I use it, and have since upgrading, with no problems. It's true that the only way to get to the prefs in the program is to hit command-, [that's a comma with the command key] while the pasteboard window is open. Other than that, it works just as it should for me...

Must be something else in the way of a conflict going on for the people having problems, IMHO.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: Felix on Feb 09, '04 09:56:51PM

" It's true that the only way to get to the prefs in the program is to hit command-, [that's a comma with the command key] while the pasteboard window is open."

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!
I've continued to use the app since upgrading to Panther and have been wondering how to get the PTHPasteboard prefs to show up again. Thanks for the tip. And now while I'm thinking of it, I'm going to dump a copy of the app into my iDisk folder in case this copy ever gets corrupted since it's no longer available on the author's web site.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: pgr on Feb 10, '04 02:16:00AM

Thanks so much for this tip!
What is the trick to clear the pasteboard ?



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: osxfan57 on Feb 22, '04 12:48:16AM

Strange, this doesn't work for me. Pressing command-, does nothing, whether the PTH Clipboard window is open or not. I will say that I haven't had any problems running either PTH Clipboard or Clock. Both run fine on my 10.3.2 iMac, just like before. Except for the access to menus. Any other suggestions on how to get this to work?

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iMac 17, OS 10.3



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: osxfan57 on Feb 22, '04 12:54:55AM

A further note - by way of experiment, I tried command-, in other apps and found out that it doesn't activate preferences there either - all it does is toggle between zooming the window of the app and returning it to normal. What could be changed that command-, doesn't work anymore?
Thanks.

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iMac 17, OS 10.3



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: shiyinjia on Feb 09, '04 09:37:58PM

I know this isn't the right place to post this, but I have missed PTH Pasteboard dearly as I had some disk problems and lost it. Now I have no way of getting it back. Other clipboard utilities seem to complicated or unweildly. Does anyone know where I download a copy of it? Thanks!

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jeff hargrove
photography
www.jeffhargrove.net



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: shiyinjia on Feb 10, '04 08:31:44AM

I got a lot of offers of help! Now I have multiple clipboard access and it sure makes a difference... I thought I'd never see pth pasteboard again!

Thanks to everyone, great response, great community, I appreciate it!

Jeff

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jeff hargrove
photography
www.jeffhargrove.net



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: Zo-1 on Mar 31, '04 07:28:21AM

Tucows.

Tucows, unlike anybody else, actually *has* the files. Thus, plenty of oldies and oddities on there. It's great!



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: leebennett on Feb 09, '04 11:45:33PM

I'm working on a full review of You Control to appear in About This Particular Macintosh - http://www.atpm.com/ - I'm assuming it will be in the March issue, but it could be April.

In the way of some initial observations, I was concerned about the price--at first. Now, after using it, I think it's worth it. You can't find equivalent competitor products to the original PTH tools that don't have a total cost of You Control's price, and You Control has added so much more.

ATPM is generally published near the first of the month.



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10.3: Re-activate PTH menubar apps' menus
Authored by: mandelo on Mar 12, '04 10:33:00AM

It seems that there are a variety of experiences with this hint, some have had no problems with PTH pasteboard in Panther, others have had no luck at all. I was dismayed when I first upgraded to Panther and PTH stopped working completely. After applying this hint, I was able to access the multi-clipboard once again, though only through the dock. However, I dug around in my archives and found a newer version '2.2.3' which restores the menu bar reveal thus eliminating the need to go to the dock. If you are in Panther and are having trouble, it may be due to the version of PTH you are using, 2.2.0 did not work for me, but 2.2.3 under Panther 10.3.2 with all current updates except the latest security update installed seems to work just fine.



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Forget about PTH Pasteboard
Authored by: bonobo on Apr 04, '04 05:27:45PM

Folks,

let me chime in and plug a fellow German's superb utility.

I can't help but do it the Steve Ballmer style: Butler! Butler! Butler! Butler! ;-)

Once you've encountered Butler you'll never again miss PTH Pasteboard.

Butler (formerly known as "Another Launcher") is a mighty little donationware program (recommended: 18 EURO/$, or more or less(!!!)) which I can wholeheartedly recommend to anyone who wants to be the master of his Mac.
<http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?thema=butler&id=butlerabout&sprache=english&kopf=labor>
Butler has -- among many other features you'll love but which I won't mention here -- a great multiclipboard which, if set thusly, will pop up on a key command. You can even choose whether you want to paste styled or w/o styles!

I for one can't live w/o Butler anymore.

Do yourself a favour and check it out; and no, I'm not the author and I'm not married with him ;-)


Cheers, Tom

p.s.: The only PTH app I still use is PTH Clock.

p.p.s.: Pssst: You'll also forget about LaunchBar, iSeek and even some makro apps!

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