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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ Apps
Here's a neat trick I discovered. Set some Konfabulator widgets to the 'desktop' mode. Then launch Desktop Manager (a great freeware multiple desktop app). Now, ExposÚ will not affect the desktop widgets! The exclusion effect remains even if you quit Desktop Manager. Relaunching Konfabulator restores normal behavior.

Desktop Manager is open source, so maybe someone could use it to figure out some sort of ExposÚ exclusion hack.
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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: zedwards on Jan 29, '04 11:23:17AM

Desktop manager really should be a Pick of the week. There are some bugs, but its free and duplicates "REAL" multiple desktops, like in linux.



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Let me raise the recommendation to a must have
Authored by: zedwards on Jan 29, '04 11:27:16AM

I just downloaded the latest version (I must have had an older version) and the improvements are so great. One cool thing is that it has transitions for the desktops, and one is the famous cube! Yet another way to impress your friends AND have great functionality.



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Let me raise the recommendation to a must have
Authored by: mzarra on Jan 29, '04 02:30:38PM

There is one huge horrible problem with Desktop.

CHOOSING A SWITCH TRANSITION!

Horrible I tell you, horrible.

Great application though. Can't wait for sticky applications to be implemented. Maybe they can add random to the list of transitions. Going to have to add a feature request.



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Let me raise the recommendation to a must have
Authored by: rjw57 on Jan 30, '04 12:12:32PM

Hehe :) -- Random switch transitions will be in 0.5.1. Your wish is my command.



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Let me raise the recommendation to a must have
Authored by: NeutronMonk on Jan 30, '04 01:59:50PM

I have been playing with this app all afternoon- the transitions are cool! [ yeah- I probably need a life... :D ] I would love the ability to have different wallpapers and icon sets on the different desktops, however.



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Let me raise the recommendation to a must have
Authored by: NeutronMonk on Jan 30, '04 02:09:57PM

Just thinking, if we could get by the password issue, creating multiple users as different workplaces then using fast user switching might work...



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Also works with Geektool
Authored by: kirbysdl on Jan 29, '04 03:20:38PM
Geektool ( versiontracker link ) is a free app that I use to display things like top, firewall logs, and other system bits on my desktop. The problem (as described above) is that I can't use Expose to clear away windows and let me see my geektool listings. When I do, geektool also gets cleared off to the edges.

What I think I'll do is launch Desktop Manager on startup, then set a shell script to sleep for a few seconds and then send a graceful HUP to Desktop Manager. I don't use multiple desktops, but I could use the residual feature/bug that Desktop Manager would give me.

The following is untested. Your mileage may suck.

#!/bin/bash
open /[path to Desktop Manager]/Desktop\ Manager.app
sleep 15
killall -SIGHUP 'Desktop Manager'



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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: rjw57 on Jan 29, '04 06:00:21PM

Hi, I'm the author of Desktop Manager. Anyone looking for code that does this should look for the 'sticky'-related code in ForeignWindow.m in the Desktop Manager source -- this does some devious-ness with the Window Server to make Expose and other Apple apps treat things effectivel just like the Dock.

I'll be happy to explain over e-mail if people want me to.



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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: Accura on Jan 30, '04 02:41:40AM

nice app, perfect. thank you

jameso

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I second that "must have" statement.
Authored by: notmatt on Jan 29, '04 06:27:02PM

I used CodeTek's desktop manager until ExposÚ came along, which it didn't play nice with. The new version is compatible with ExposÚ, but they're charging for it; fair enough, I suppose, but I can't justify paying for it twice in 6 months. So far, this is making for a great replacement. If per-application exceptions make it in, then it'll be perfect.



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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: mproud on Jan 30, '04 04:57:05AM

I'm confused. Aren't the widgets excluded already? Or, do the widgets become "hidden" windows?



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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: notmatt on Jan 30, '04 05:12:53AM

No, they're not excluded. ExposÚ sweeps everything aside like dewdrops before a desert wind.

Last I checked, though, the Konfabulator developers mentioned they had a method to let widgets stick; no word on the update though.



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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: Durandal on Jan 31, '04 12:01:58AM

Side-note. This also works with DragThing.

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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: vondrix on Feb 01, '04 05:49:15AM
I made a utility based on Desktop Manager that does this. You start konfabulator with it's widgets set to "below" or "desktop", then you start my program. Press F11, and the konfabulator widgets will stay where they are.

You can find it here

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10.3: Exclude Konfabulator widgets from ExposÚ
Authored by: bozo_z_clown on Apr 16, '04 12:06:40AM

The latest version of Konfabulator (1.6) has much improved integration with ExposÚ. Desktop level Widgets are sticky by default (they now unstick when the level is changed) and they remain in place (though grayed out) when the other ExposÚ actions are performed.



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