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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install Install
Many people have run into an issue during Panther install that causes a black screen. I have found that the problem may be caused by certain third-party memory. I removed my third-party RAM and the install went off without any further problems. When I put my third-party RAM back in, it prevented me from changing resolution (I get the black screen again), dragging windows around the screen (they blur), and using the scroll arrows (windows contents blur).

It irritates me that I'm going to have to buy new RAM just because of an OS upgrade, but my Mac being in good health is worth a great deal more to me. Hope this helps anybody who reads it.
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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: sagworks on Jan 07, '04 02:01:14PM

I am having this problem on the Quicksilver. Other people have reported that changing your monitor settings to 800x600 and reducing the amount of colors to 256 helped them out. I have not tried either approach yet, but I may give it a shot tonight.



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: magsinc on Jan 07, '04 04:45:15PM

I had this problem also. The 3rd Party memory, SimpleTech, worked fine in Jaguar in my new Powerbook G4 (the lastest version) but when I went to install Panther the computer froze up just before the login screen. Every single time. I tried every trick I new and some I had to call people to learn. Nothing. Took out the 3rd party memory and now she works perfectly. I haven't tried to re-install it yet as I don't want to risk locking anything up right now.



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: Gutta on Jan 07, '04 05:09:10PM

Yep, I had a Panther install fail on an old Lombard 333 (don't laugh) which had a 3rd party 256 meg stick inside, in addition to an Apple branded 256. The install went badly. Removed the RAM, installed perfectly, reinstalled the 3rd party RAM and everything still continues to work.

I can repeatedly crash the machine by running "repair permissions" though. I have no idea if it's related to RAM issues...

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Bad RAM
Authored by: jgc on Jan 07, '04 05:39:32PM

Likewise.

What pisses me off about my supposedly "bad" RAM was that it came from my local Apple-authorised reseller. After the third replacement, I gave up and handed the 256MB chip to a friend, whose computer worked perfectly with the chip under Mac OS X. I can no longer use my Wallstreet, due to the unrelated but just as frustrating power loss problem.



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: braz on Jan 08, '04 07:45:33AM
Lombards have been having RAM problems since the first 10.2.8 update. Apple fixed the problem with Lombards and RAM (Lombards with more than 256 (386?) MB of RAM will freeze under high RAM/CPU load) in the reposted 10.2.8 update, but the original 10.3 and the 10.3.1 updates also have this issue.

Like the other post in this thread says, the easiest way to kill your Lombard with RAM in the top slot is to run a repair permissions on your machine. I've just recently rebuilt my wife's Lombard, and put in her extra 256MB of RAM (upping it to the full 512MB) and so far with 10.3.2, everything seems fine.

To anyone having problems during the install of Panther or under high CPU load, especially on Lombards, I'd recommend taking things down to 256MB of RAM and install, then update to 10.3.2. Once done, reinstall the RAM and all should be fine.



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: sultawi on Jan 08, '04 09:23:59AM

In response to Gutta: I have had the same problem with my Lombard: screen goes dead (or very colorful!) during install, repair permissions, and a few other tasks... no idea if its the ram or something else.



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cash in on the warranty
Authored by: captainbonehead on Jan 07, '04 05:47:21PM

When I ran into this problem upgrading from 9 to X, the RAM manufacturer replaced it without any hassles. It's worth checking into, unless it's cheap brokerage RAM. If it's got a "lifetime" warranty, press either the dealer or the maker to honor the warranty.



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G4(AGP)/GeForce combination
Authored by: frogmella on Jan 07, '04 08:11:06PM

Don't forget that there are certain combinations of G4 (AGP) with GeForce 2 or 4 cards that may cause the same phenomenon with 10.3 - specifically when there is more than 256MB of memory installed.
This was fixed with 10.3.2, but until this patch is applied I can't see how it would be possible to 10.3 unless the extra memory is removed, then replaced after the 10.3.2 updater applied.



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This issue is not specific to Panther
Authored by: mecchaeric on Jan 08, '04 09:45:34AM

This is not just specific to Panther. In fact, I had the same issue w/ Jaguar client and Jaguar server on my Beige PowerMac G3 233 MHz. The install just didn't like the third party RAM I installed. Luckily, I had the original two 64 MB chips. One I took out the third party RAM and put in the original RAM, install went fine. Once I knew the install went ok (and after installing other apps) and I backed up, I swapped back the third party RAM. Everything runs fine.



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: cudaboy_71 on Jan 08, '04 03:07:31PM

to further another poster's comment; verify your ram vendor guarantees its ram against firmware upgrades and other os updates that may render otherwise good ram useless. this is beyond a 'lifetime guarantee'.

not promoting any specific vendor--suffice to say there are many who do offer this guarantee. just ask.

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if it aint broke, break it!



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: clarityprod on Jan 09, '04 07:18:32PM

well guys, just as another heads up. If you have the Blueberry DV IMAC make sure you update your firmware before the install of panther or you will go into the weridest issues with the little IMAC I have ever encountered. Just make sure your up to the current version of Firmware. I cant say that enough.

Happy New Year

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kenneth bailey
Owner
Clarity Production LLC



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10.3: A possible fix for a black screen during install
Authored by: clarityprod on Jan 09, '04 07:19:36PM

well guys, just as another heads up. If you have the Blueberry DV IMAC make sure you update your firmware before the install of panther or you will go into the weridest issues with the little IMAC I have ever encountered. Just make sure your up to the current version of Firmware. I cant say that enough.

Happy New Year

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kenneth bailey
Owner
Clarity Production LLC



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