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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars Desktop
I just noticed an interesting spring-loaded folder behaviour with the new sidebar. If you drag a file over a folder, a new window will spring open (as in 10.2). But if you drag a file over a folder in a finder window sidebar, the content pane of that window will change to show the contents of the folder. If you then drag your file over one of the folders in the newly displayed folder, that folder's content will then be displayed in the same finder window. No new windows are created. Rather nicer than having a screen full of folder nest, I thought.

[robg adds: On my machine, dragging a file over a folder does not open a new window ... I'm not sure if this is related to the "Always open folders in a new window" Finder setting or not (I leave that checkbox disabled on my machines).]
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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: playdrums on Dec 16, '03 12:35:45PM

That is definitely what the reason is. It's actually a glaring problem with Apple's inconsistent windowing. The preference to always open new folders applies to items in the toolbar and in the sidebar - places you might not expect that setting to apply and you actually might like to set a differing preference.



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: b-baggins on Dec 16, '03 02:14:30PM

My experience with this behavior is that it has to do with the view settings on the folder. Column view will always open in the same window. Icon view will always open in a new window. I believe that List view will also always open in a new window.

It's the same behavior you get when you double-click a folder from a window with that same view.



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: osxpounder on Dec 16, '03 03:51:27PM

I'd prefer it if I could set a system-wide default choice for Finder view style [icons, list, or columns], and if each spring-loaded folder that pops up was in the same view as my preset preference.

I find it especially irritating that a folder springs up with whatever sorting I used there last, so, if I happened to sort my video files by date, instead of name, when I drop a file in via spring-loaded behavior, I have to search while holding the mouse down for a folder that's now lost among many, all sorted by date, whereas I'm searching for a folder by name.

So I wind up pressing Esc and doing it the 'old-fashioned' way. Funny that anything on a computer could seem 'old-fashioned'.

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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: playdrums on Dec 16, '03 04:46:58PM

Yep, very annoying. Of course your behavior will be different depending on what you have showing - toolbars, sidebar, etc. Anything with toolbar/sidebar is (by default) a "browser" and won't open new windows unless you specify in the prefs. It appears to be real flexible until you realize that it presents really incoherent results sometimes. Stick a new CD in and the window always opens with a sidebar and and toolbar regardless of whether your other windows normally have those elements. Also, doing so causes another "browser" style window to open even when there already is one. Very inconsistent.



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: osxpounder on Dec 16, '03 03:44:07PM

On my machine [only 4 days old!], dragging a file over a folder ALWAYS opens a new folder window [perhaps because my Finder prefs are set to always open new windows], and ALWAYS opens a new window when dragging a file over an item in the sidebar.

Dragging over a toolbar icon [such as Home or Documents] does nothing at all for me.

BTW, it's a shame that spring-loaded folder behavior isn't possible by hovering over the Dock; that is the most logical place of all for such a thing, seems to me.

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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: playdrums on Dec 16, '03 04:42:26PM

<blockquote>Dragging over a toolbar icon [such as Home or Documents] does nothing at all for me.</blockquote>

Right, it used to in Jaguar though.



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: jedik on Dec 16, '03 09:47:43PM

Actually, it depends on the type of the window: if it's brushed it will NOT open a new window, if it's not (no sidebar and no Toolbar) it will open a new window.

Of course, the Finder preference "Always open folders in a new window" will override this. ;)

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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: ngb on Dec 16, '03 11:36:28PM

Well that's just plain odd. Is the Finder a brushed metal app or isn't it? I was surprised to see the brushed metal disappear when I hid the sidebar and the toobar.



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: MJCube on Dec 18, '03 12:05:57PM

I turn off the Spring Loaded Folders feature (and I suspect robg has it off too). But you can still use it at any time by hitting the space bar while dragging the item and highlighting the folder. Works in a window and the sidebar as well. (This goes back to System 7 or 8.)



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10.3: Spring-loaded folder behaviour in sidebars
Authored by: nebula on Dec 20, '03 08:48:08PM

Holding down command reverses this behaviour. Very cool.

My checkbox to 'always open new windows' is disabled. I found that the spring loaded folders feature seems to only open a new window when I attempt to use a folder on the desktop. If I use a folder that is in a finder window, the window contents just change.

But when I hold down command, a new window will open (just like command-double clicking a folder will open a new window).



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