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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire Network
Last night, I was able to successfully connect my Panther iBook to my PC via a 400 Mbit FireWire connection. Extending on a previous hint, here's how you do this. You'll need 10.3 on the Mac and Windows XP with a FireWire card (and likely, a 6 pin to 6 pin FireWire cable):
  1. Make a new network location in System Prefs (Network Port Configurations -> New, FireWire). I called mine "Direct Connection (FireWire)."
  2. Set the location to have a manual IP address; I choose 10.0.0.1 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0.
  3. Disable all of the other ports on the Mac; i.e., only have FireWire enabled.
  4. Turn on FTP Sharing in the Sharing system pref (in my experience, only this yields reliable, fast transfers).
  5. On the PC, right-click on My Network Places, go to Properties, and right-click on LAN and choose Properties. Change the IP address to 10.0.0.2, and the subnet to 255.255.255.0.
  6. Connect the two computers via the cable directly.
  7. On the PC, open up your FTP client and go to 10.0.0.1/your short username. I suggest using Active mode rather than Passive as the latter always times out.
  8. Transfer away!
I copied 1.1 GB of data last night in about three minutes; the transfer speed held steady at a speedy 5 MB/sec! Just remember to change the Location on the Mac and settings on the PC back to what they were when you were done.
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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: heathpitts on Nov 18, '03 11:10:28AM

I have been using this since panther came out. I did a test backing up 12 gb of data using retrospect w/verify turned on. over ethernet this action took 4 hrs 32 min. Over firewire it took 3hrs 26 min.

Good bit faster I suppose



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: cejones on Nov 18, '03 01:55:04PM

How does one setup this Firewire file sharing with two macs?

I want to continue using my ethernet connection for all http/ftp services, but I do want to use my firewire connection for Apple file sharing between two macs both running panther...

Should I keep Ethernet on top of the Network Port Configuration screen and just manually set the Firewire connection to a manual IP address like expressed in the above hint?



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: filburt1 on Nov 18, '03 03:12:38PM

Do the same steps for the Mac on the other Mac, only this time using 10.0.0.2, instead of 10.0.0.1. It might even be smart enough such that you don't have to set a new IP. Windows isn't.



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: filburt1 on Nov 18, '03 03:14:52PM
By the way, there's a bug in my hint: the FTP URL should be: ftp://10.0.0.1/~your username/ Note the tilde.

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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: iainross on Apr 01, '04 05:05:35AM

Hmm can you help me? i just got a mac for the office and I am having trouble transferring from pc to mac using a direct comp to comp (via a ethernet cable). can it be done? dont care about speed
thankyou



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: sfn on Nov 18, '03 03:27:25PM

It is even easier than this. I just used DHCP on both machines and left the other ports active. On the client machine I dragged Firewire above Airport and ethernet and on the parent machine I turned on Internet Sharing for the Firewire port. I was then able to surf the web and file share using Rendezvous names through the firewire connection.

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-sfn



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: sfn on Nov 18, '03 03:29:18PM

Ooops. Of course the Rendezvous part won't work on the PC side! ;-)

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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: thecrazyfinn on Nov 18, '03 03:36:52PM

As per the article over at MacDevCenter, you can share your Internet connection this way as well.

Firewire acts just like an Ethernet crossover connection, but at 400Mb/s instead of 100Mb/s



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: jhave on Nov 24, '03 03:02:00PM

Could you provide an URL on that article. I can't find it.


Thanks!

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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: g3cko on Nov 19, '03 02:17:25AM

5MB/sec is cool... but I regularly get 9-12MB/sec over my 100mbit ethernet, and 35MB/sec over my gigabit copper ethernet.

Thats MegaBytes/sec not megabits too :-)

-Theo



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: scrutton on Dec 14, '03 08:52:36PM

I've done this and found 12 MB/s throughput. I was hoping to see significantly faster transfers but ActivityMonitor shows the CPU is pegged by FTP/IP/FW. This was done with a 1.25 GHz PowerBook G4. CPU load is 60% ftpd and 40% kernel_task.

Can anyone suggest any tweaks to speed this up?

SMB transfers are quite choppy and clock in at only 5 MB/s.



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: jordan314 on Jul 24, '05 10:00:15PM

I've been trying this all day with no luck...I'm trying desperately to back up my PC to my new G5. I'm running tiger on the G5, and even installed XP on the PC with no luck (I was running 2000 before, but installed XP hoping the IP over firewire would work....it didn't). I have FTP and windows file sharing installed on both machines.
I've followed these instructions literally but still can't get either machine to even ping the other. I've tried to install firenet on both machines, but it looks like the last version of firenet for mac was for jaguar (maybe panther), but it doesn't work with tiger. On the PC it tells me to install its own native driver when windows asks when I plug it in, but windows says both of firenet's drivers are invalid.
When you "right click on LAN" you're talking about the 1394 connection in network connections, right? I've tried static IPs, DHCP, enabling internet file sharing, everything, but the machines will not talk to each other. I've heard that with the right permissions you can get firewire target disk mode to work but I have not. Macdisk also did not work. Anyones' help is appreicated.



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: Waxer on Aug 13, '06 02:58:07PM

I am attempting the same thing from a windows xp machine (home edition) to an iMac Intel on 10.4.7...no joy yet, but I'll report back if I'm successfull...and to the guy that spent all day attemoting it...get a DVD burner!!! ;)



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10.3: Connecting a Mac and a PC via IP over FireWire
Authored by: engelgrafik on Nov 09, '07 01:17:59PM

I tried following these directions... there appears to be a lot of missing data or incorrect steps, both in the Mac side and the PC side. For instance, there is no way to even see, let alone input, IP when you click on Properties after selecting LAN on my XP's Network control panel. I have 10.3.9 and a Windows XP machine, connecting via Firewire 6-pin to a 4-pin on my IBM Thinkpad. Also, it took me forever to figure out where exactly to fine this firewire selection on the Mac.. it's under CONFIGURE I believe, and even then you have to set a couple things not mentioned to get to it.



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