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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems Apps
This morning I started experiencing problems with all of my OS X apps. It began with Safari not starting up, then I tried TextEdit, Console and others. Safari would not start up at all, TextEdit would start but then freeze after a moment or so later when I tried to access the menu bar; same with Console. Terminal would run fine, but when I started troubleshooting, I noticed that it would freeze when trying to change the Display preferences in the Window Settings.

I finally zeroed in on fonts being a possible issue and remembered that I had played with Font Book last night and disabled some fonts that I had duplicates of. One of these fonts was Helvetica Neue, which I realize now is one of the system fonts. Apparently many OS X apps rely on these fonts to operate. Enabling them with Font Book solved the problem.

[robg adds: This is related to a prior hint on problems caused by using Font Book's Resolve Duplicates feature. In both cases, a system font was disabled, leading to widespread system issues.]
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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: Hodag on Nov 12, '03 11:26:07AM

This happened to me and was driving me nuts! I wasn't able to launch Safari unless Font Book was already open. I fixed it by accident when I was reinstalling fonts.

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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: claas on Nov 17, '03 02:07:25PM

I experienced exactly the same problems (Safari not starting up, TextEdit hangs etc.). All these problems did not show up when FontBook was running. After quitting FontBook, trouble was back again.



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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: fds on Nov 12, '03 12:23:50PM

Odd. I have not only disabled Helvetica Neue, but outright removed it completely from my system and I have no problems anywhere.

Panther 10.3.1, used to be the same with 10.3.

I did have a problem that disabling fonts in Font Book didn't actually disable the font in all of my applications (it did in TextEdit, Safari and other 'modern' apps), which is why I ended up deleting them.



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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: maniac on Nov 12, '03 01:57:00PM

Font book has caused all kinds of problems for me as well. Does anyone have a canonical list of "Required" system fonts? I've come up with my own default list, but am sure that many fonts I've left in as System Fonts aren't really required...



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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: jamie_dwyer on Nov 12, '03 04:16:05PM

I deleted several fonts, not realizing some may have been System fonts. I noticed that Keynote's samples (1.1.1) didn't load correctly (it told me there was a missing font) so I reinstalled from a friend's copy. I'm still convinced that iCal's icon has been messed up by font issues as well, since the number now encroaches on the red banner at the top.

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10.3: Required fonts
Authored by: jamesflach on Nov 12, '03 08:28:19PM
Take a look at article 75494 Mac OS X Font Handling and Management Technololgy Brief. It should answer most if not all of your questions. The short list of required fonts is: Lucida Grande, Keyboard, LastResort, and some form of Helvetica and Helvetica Neue...it can be your PostScript Type 1 version or Apple's .dfont version.

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10.3: Required fonts
Authored by: claas on Nov 21, '03 08:14:32AM

The problem is not only that some fonts are missing. Even when all required fonts are left in their original location, or copied back to it from another Mac, you will probably not get rid of the trouble (I did not). FontBook is buggy piece of software, that´s it for me.



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Resolving Duplicates can create problems, too
Authored by: jiga on Nov 13, '03 05:20:29PM

Fonts in fontbook often have a dot behind their name. This indicates that the same font exists in more than one location. Using "resolve duplicates" in the edit menu automatically deactivates the duplicates, but beware: I've tried this, and suddenly Safari rendered certain fonts with incorrect kerning: invidual letters were too close together or even overlapped themselves while leaving big gaps in other places.

Just a word of caution.



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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: claas on Nov 17, '03 02:34:04PM
This is definately not just a problem of deleted fonts. I´d rather think that it´s the Resolve duplicates funtion that causes problems. I never deleted any fonts (and I never would do so, for I´m a typemaniac), but I experience the same problems as described above, like Safari not starting up. This all does not happen while FontBook is running. My rescue right now is to have FontBook running all the time, but, of course, this is not a satisfying solution/workaround at all. Apple, fix this!!! btw, remember that "only fractions" bug in safari? Seems to me like there is some conncection with that. Bad font-engine in subsystem?

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10.3: Disabling certain fonts via Font Book can cause problems
Authored by: sloow on Mar 22, '04 05:06:15PM

I've been having problems with my font book, I started disabling fonts, because they were duplicates etc. but then ran into problems with all the applications not being able to open because of Arial not working right. How can I set Font book back to a default setting?

thanks



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