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You can open Cocoa applications in the background while maintaining your current application in the foreground simply by double-clicking on said app's dock icon at a fast-paced rhythm. The double-click pace takes a little practice to get, but it's worth it for apps like iPhoto that take a bit to load.

[robg adds: Interesting -- this works. It is a bit tricky to time, but I was able to consistenly get iPhoto opening in the background after a bit of practice. How odd ... I'm not sure if this works in Jaguar or not.]
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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: JazzDude on Nov 03, '03 10:56:50AM
Hm... no matter how fast I double-click, this doesn't work. Did I miss anything?

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: BlakeyRat on Nov 03, '03 04:41:24PM

Ditto that. This doesn't work on my 800 mhz G3 iBook no matter how many times I click the icon, how fast I click it, using the track button or an external Logitech USB mouse.

This isn't a tip if it doesn't work... could someone figure out what modification these people have made to their systems that allows one to super-double-click (or triple-click as some have found) to open programs in the background?



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Click Speed
Authored by: inspired_tmu on Nov 03, '03 05:55:14PM

Actually, speed is not the key.

I have a Logitech MouseMan with the thumb button assigned to double-click (i.e., faster-than-humanly-possible-double-click). But using the thumb button won't make this work.

If you time your clicks so they are about an eighth of a second apart, it should work. As robg noted, the timing is very difficult to get down. But once you figure it out, it's easy to get the hang of.



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Click Speed
Authored by: heliosnorf on Nov 03, '03 06:26:46PM

Hmm - you do seem to be correct - I got it to work with about 1/8 of a second between clicks as you suggested. The original hint said to double click quickly.. I guess my normal double click speed is a *lot* faster than this, because even at my normal speed it doesn't work... So actually, the hint should say that you should double click at a medium speed...



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: heliosnorf on Nov 03, '03 06:24:48PM

Doesn't work for me either.. I've tried lots of different clicking speeds...



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: mm2270 on Nov 04, '03 01:39:30PM

Actually it does work, but it IS a little hard to get the hang of the right speed. Honestly I wonder if this is really a bug rather than a feature. My results were pretty hit and miss. Out of about 6 attempts at launching iCal using this, I was successful in 3, so it's about 50-50, at least for me.

I'd give you a tip on how to get it to work, but it's kind of impossible to relate how to do it. Just know that double clicking really fast does NOT work, rather double clicking at a more normal speed seems to be the trick. See the posts above this for more on that.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: encro on Nov 03, '03 12:16:04PM

I cannot replicate this action either but can open an application in the background by clicking on the icon to open it and then click-hold on the icon until it stops bouncing.

hmmm



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Anidel on Nov 04, '03 09:20:51AM

That's cool,

you should ask Rob to add this to the original hint.
It's a lot easier and completes the hint itself.

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Eukaryote on Nov 03, '03 12:30:10PM
I couldn't get this to work at all in Panther. I did, however, notice that as soon as I opened a cocoa app, (namely iPhoto), the active window would dim, and it would make iPhoto the front app.

However, if right after I click on iPhoto I click on the app I was working with, iPhoto will open in the background.

For those of us whose computers take more than a nanosecond to load iPhoto, (I'm looking at you, dual G-5ers...) then this should work...

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: wuf810 on Nov 03, '03 12:56:02PM

It worked for me but I must say its hard to get it to work consistently especially with a trackpad. Interesting but I'm sure its a "feature" only.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: johnl on Nov 03, '03 01:48:17PM

Triple-clicking works for me! But you have to be fast -- finish all three clicks before the app is fully loaded.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: syko on Nov 03, '03 02:06:34PM

YUP!!!!!!

Worked for me, too...has to be the triple click



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Drakonian on Nov 03, '03 04:40:53PM

I agree, that's the only way I could get it to work too. Thanks!



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: cynikal on Nov 03, '03 03:53:14PM

This must be a biitch for people who have a fast computer like a G5, cuz then their apps load before they have a chance to finish right clicking..

fortunately i have a slow ass powerbook 1 ghz w/ a gig of ram :-P

I've gotten it to work fine with terminal, but not with say textedit..

this carbon vs cocoa debacle is a big pain in the ass..



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Accura on Nov 03, '03 05:20:39PM

From what i can tell if u double click but hold the second click till the app opens it will drop into the back ground. You only have to do it till the icon stops bouncing (if u have that turned on) or until the little arrow shows up

jameso

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"The time has come," the walrus said. "To talk of many things..."



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: callefjant on Nov 03, '03 05:42:06PM
I get it to work by tripple-clicking the icon in the dock or by clicking the icon and then holding the mouse button down on a second click. It even works when opening the Text Edit app on my cube.. :-) Odd thing.. It works for Carbon apps as well, for what it matters. Running 10.3 on a 450 MHz G4 Cube.

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: iPodder on Nov 03, '03 05:58:47PM
Yup, works in Jaguar 10.2.8 with three clicks really fast.

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: baba on Nov 03, '03 06:08:27PM

I've tried the various combinations in 10.2.6. The most reliable way seem to be to double click rather slowly. I've always wanted a way to have Mail stay in the background. This seems to work.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: RickoKid on Nov 03, '03 06:21:16PM

I could get it to work in Jaguar with both a double click and triple click - but not if the double click is too fast.

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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Makosuke on Nov 03, '03 07:31:37PM

I've got a feeling the people getting it to work with triple clicks are having luck because that's forcing them to slow down their click speed to the point where the first and last clicks fall at the right spacing.

In any case, I can get it to work under Jaguar with both double and triple clicks, but in either case the timing works out so the first and last clicks are about the same space apart (and a fairly long delay for my click speed, even triple clicking, I might add). That is, the space between triple clicks has to be shorter than the space between double clicks for it to work.

Sounds more like a bug than a feature due to the odd implimentation, but rather useful I must admit.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: wsdr on Nov 03, '03 08:47:58PM

I couldn't get it to work with double or triple clicks on my 17" Powerbook. However, every time I tried HOLDING the second click, it worked perfectly.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Yelsmek on Nov 03, '03 08:55:04PM

Someone else mentioned this, but few responded.

I found that clicking and then click-n-hold on the bouncing icon for 1 or 2 bounces opens the application in the background.

I did not have to hold the mouse down until the application stopped bouncing.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: Mikey-San on Nov 03, '03 10:28:17PM

This has to be a bug. Double-clicking REALLY fast? TRIPLE-clicking? On my Ti, when it works, the application menu still shows the name of the app I just launched, but the active window is from the previous app.

Bug? I imagine so.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: aranor on Nov 04, '03 01:04:58AM

Here's the definitive answer: click once, then click the second time when the bouncing dock icon has reached the peak of the first bounce.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: ascanio on Nov 04, '03 02:18:49AM

Ahh... this explains why when opening a folder nested in another folder I get the last one opened behind and not in front of the previous. (too fast clicking?). But I thought the Finder was not Cocoa yet.



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: JesperL on Nov 04, '03 10:00:47AM

It seems to be very different from user to user. Me, for example - I can't even get them to start up in the FOREGROUND. Major bug, it seems.

- J



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Open Cocoa applications in the background
Authored by: bl8ant on Nov 04, '03 08:39:59PM

NO. you dont need to double click real fast, or triple click, or click in some rediculous timing with the dock bounce.

YES. thats right. all you need to do it double click and hold the second click. IT WORKS EVERY TIME.

try it.



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