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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility Apps
I was confused when I first noticed that Disk Copy was gone after upgrading to Panther. I was pleasantly surprised when I realized that Disk Copy had been merged into Disk Utility. I was overcome with joy when I realized that the core features of Carbon Copy Cloner and NetRestore had been integrated into Disk Utility as well.

Hardcore users will not find all the options and settings they rely on in CCC and NetRestore, but this will be very useful as it adds some very important capabilities to Mac OS X. For those not familiar with CCC and NetRestore, here are some senarios of what Disk Utility can now do:

  • Make a bootable clone of your hard drive before installing new software.
  • Create a .dmg of your hard drive and then restore that image onto a lab full of Macs.
  • Boot from the Panther install CD and restore from a .dmg located on your server.
[robg adds: You can find these new features on the Restore tab in Disk Utility; I haven't tried it yet, but probably should have prior to last night's troubles (see previous hint).]
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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: aranor on Nov 04, '03 12:14:39PM

See previous hint? Erm, the previous hint says nothing about troubles related to backing up/restoring a drive.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: aranor on Nov 04, '03 12:15:58PM

Erm, ignore that. The hint he was talking about was in fact the hint above this one, but I read oldest-to-newest so I looked in the wrong direction for "previous hint"



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10.3: Disk Utility and Install CD #1
Authored by: matx666 on Nov 04, '03 12:16:35PM

Came in handy several weeks ago when our netboot server was down for a while.

I booted from a stack of (early build) panther install 1 Cds. They boot way faster (1min) than a bootable Cd made with BootCD (12min) and they can image the lab machine from an ASR ready DMG. Nice. (Would be nice if they had post-restore actions, tho).



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10.3: Disk Utility and Install CD #1
Authored by: prmarino on Dec 14, '04 04:15:50PM
you need to edit the files
/etc/rc.*
boot cd dose not put a perheat script on the so replace the line in the rc's that load the preheat script with
"find / | dd of=/dev/null"
this will make it load segnificantly faster it dose the same thing as the preheat script on the OSX install cds but actualy dose a better job of it also you can configre it to work in a way simalar to the install cds if you copy and coustomize the files
/etc/rc.*
off the install cd next learn the BSD startup scripts its easy to learn and the knoledge will serve you well in coustomizing the startup procidures of your machine
and finaly intsall GNU/Linux


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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: diamondsw on Nov 04, '03 12:36:02PM

Has anyone actually verified that you can restore any given disk image, and that it will be bootable? I heard there were some limitations on what could be restored properly. If so, then ths is indeed exactly what we all needed back in 10.0. :)



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: seann on Nov 04, '03 03:50:26PM

did 100 macs this way using ASR.

it works

4 differnt operating systems on each
9.2.2, 10.1.5, 10.2.8, and 10.3



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But what about 10.2 Jaguar?
Authored by: Anonymous on Nov 04, '03 12:47:38PM

The real disappointment here is that Jaguar has no such capability to make a cloned/bootable hardrive. Or a "bootable" disk image. Or does it?

This hint doesn't help if you want to backup BEFORE upgrading to Panther...I guess you still need CCC for that. Am I right?



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Just guessing here...
Authored by: jecwobble on Nov 04, '03 01:00:02PM

since I don't have Panther yet and I'm not at my Mac, but with Jaguar, Disk Utility was included on the install CD. If Disk Copy's features are now part of Disk Utility, and it's on the Panther install CD, you might be able to boot from the CD and utilize Disk Utility's new features to backup your hard drive just prior to installing Panther.

Can anyone verify this before I decide to get Panther? :-)



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But what about 10.2 Jaguar?
Authored by: kris@ubertec on Nov 04, '03 02:29:28PM

Jaguar has had this ability since around 10.2.3 I think. The new area in Disk Utility in Panther is simply a GUI wrapper to the command line utility ASR. Do 'man asr' in Terminal to read all about it. I've been using ASR in terminal for just on a year now without needing to use CCC or any of the other progs. Works very well indeed in Jaguar.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: bussdriver on Nov 04, '03 01:23:26PM

I've tried it but I had problems. I did nothing special, just copied the drive to a firewire drive. (well another mac in target disk mode)

It worked; however, the permissions were all wrong; the machine would not boot. I used the panther install CD and after 2? hours of fixing permissions for every single file it worked just fine.

Also note, that ditto changed, and that is why many utils out there do not work with panther. check out ditto! It does zip archiving --probably what the finder uses!
ditto --rsrc SourceFolder TargetFolder

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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: seann on Nov 04, '03 03:53:14PM

copy the drive to a .dmg file first

that preserves permissions



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: nicola on Nov 04, '03 04:07:28PM

Just a guess, but... you probably forgot to tell the system *not* to ignore permissions for the firewire volume before using asr.
You can find this setting in the volume's get-info window (select the volume, then command-i), and looking for the check box in the "permissions" section.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: bussdriver on Nov 04, '03 10:48:10PM

Yes, I did.
for some reason it did it. I just tried it again. I know its off, now I run it, and it turned it on! ?

So for some reason disk util is setting it to ignore permissions....
its got to be a bug.... I've got 2 partitions, perhaps that is part of it, and why others says it works. but for me it never does.

I also tried it from source and dest disks and then picking restore and it STILL does it to me! And I played around with the other partition and it still does it to me!

So, now I tried asr the command line tool that disk util uses. Now it works just fine. So somehow the ignore permissions keeps being turned on by diskutil but asr does not do this, and so it works....

any ideas why diskutil does not work for me but asr does?

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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: mnoel on Nov 04, '03 01:50:26PM

This worked fine for me. I have an external portable firewire drive which I use as a backup. I installed 10.3 on it to make sure everything I wanted working in OS X still worked in Panther. After a few hours of fixing things I had a good working system on the external drive.

Then I simply used Disk Utility to copy that system onto my internal drive, and checked the box to erase the target.

Now I'm running from that cloned system, working great. I did this on my PowerBook and my Cube. No problems at all and it took about 1 hour for around 20 GB.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: thomann on Nov 15, '03 11:47:05AM

Hello,

i did the same with an external firewire drive, but i want to save the image i made to an other macs internal drive. i got following errors:

Error (16) without erase botton selected
Error (19) with erase botton selected

yesterday i get error (2) while other experiments with disk util. but strange is that the same image works fine on the first mac.

any ideas ?



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: hangon on Nov 04, '03 02:19:51PM

man asr for all the details



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: kris@ubertec on Nov 04, '03 02:33:54PM

It should be explained that the ASR functionality has been around for quite a while. In Jaguar it was present, just not with the GUI presence in disk utility. I've used it many times to clone hard drives in the same successful way that CCC would do it. Actually, it's quite funny that there's never been a hint here on using it in Jaguar.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore procedure
Authored by: miles on Nov 05, '03 11:30:19AM

It seems like producing a .dmg is the best option.
Can I boot from my source harddrive (internal powerbook drive), run disk utility and create a valid image file to a target drive (firewire connected drive)?



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: zammie on Nov 05, '03 01:17:38PM

Listen, I will make my comment easy. Use CCC. This feature in Panther has major issues. I have to double check to make sure I'm not running Panther beta. Nope!



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: djdavetrouble on Jan 16, '04 04:17:44PM

instead of keeping your post short, why don't you detail the problems. Seems to me like you are either :
a. bashing the apple tool with no supporting facts
b. affiliated with CCC and trying to sell it
c. lazy
d. all of the above.



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10.3: Image, clone, and restore drives with Disk Utility
Authored by: asknathan.com on Nov 20, '03 02:13:07PM

I have found the restore feature works well if you know of the pitfalls.
Pitfall 1) if you are making an image for restore use Images->New->image from folder. Images->New->image from drive1 creates an image that can't be scanned for restore.
Once the image is created dismount the image and scan for restore
Dual boot caution!!! If you are needing the computer to boot into Mac OS 9 do not use the Erase Destination checkbox in the restore panel. Erase it "manually" with the disk utility with the "Install Mac OS 9 Disk Driver" checkbox. Then you can restore **without the Erase Destination** box checked.

This is really important especially in the bondi and "fruit flavored" iMacs because if the driver partition is missing the computer will stall midboot and will not allow Mac OS 9 to boot even from a CD.



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