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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches System
With the arrival of my 2x2 G5 (yipee!), I bought a Belkin Omniview SOHO USB KVM 4-port Switch with Audio (F1DS104U) so I could remove two keyboards and mice from my desk and switch between the G5, a G4/733 and a PC running Linux.

When I started it up with the new, white G5 keyboard attached it emitted a continuous sequence of three beeps and the port 1 LED flashed. There's nothing on the Belkin website to explain this, but an email from Belkin support explained that the KVM couldn't find a keyboard to use. I then tried it with the older, black G4 keyboard and it worked. Belkin support have now confirmed that this KVM doesn't work with the G5 keyboard.

Hope this helps someone else...
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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: prk on Oct 20, '03 11:42:14AM

This is probably because the new Apple Keyboard is a cheap piece of junk. I've wrote my letter to Apple telling them that, then went out and bought a Macally iceKey.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: blalor on Oct 20, '03 01:20:38PM

I'm using an IOGear MiniView III with my G5 and a Compaq box running XP Pro. I was bitterly disappointed to discover that the fancy buttons (volume up/down and play/pause and stop) on my Logitech keyboard don't work with this KVM. Apparently that's because the KVM emulates the keyboard and mouse to allow one computer to boot when the other's accepting input from the keyboard and mouse. The KVM apparently emulates the lowest common denominator.

The other problem I had (not related directly to the KVM) is that the apple/command and alt keys are physically switched between the Logitech keyboard and the Apple keyboard. This caused the command key to pop up the Start menu under Windows when using the Apple keyboard and the Logitech keyboard's alt key didn't trigger the command keypress. I got around this problem by using DoubleCommand to swap the alt and command keys on the G5 using the Logitech keyboard.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: mgmcotton on Jan 15, '04 09:50:11PM

If you have not done so, install the latest Logitech softeware for your keyboard. One I installed the Logitech center my Logitech keyboard on my G4 worked perfectly.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: AltRN8 on Oct 20, '03 03:28:24PM

The problem I think is one of power draw by the keyboard. I have been using the a SOHO for quite awhile and when I got it the microsoft natural keyboard refused to work. I tried a bunch of other keyboards and what I found was any keyboard that had usb hub like features seemed to cause too much of a power drain on the keyboard port.

Here is my solution though its not so elegant. I plugged my old black keyboard from my G4 into the keyboard port (to stop the incessant beeping) and plugged my microsoft keyboard into one of the shared usb ports. This lets me use the keyboard on both my Mac and my PC and keeps the SOHO from yelping.

Yes, I know the black keyboard has "hub like" functionality but I always had power problems using my black keyboard usb ports for powering anything other than a mouse which is why I suspect it doesn't draw as much power.

I could be totally wrong about the power thing but the solution (though not ideal) at least works :)



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: denken on Oct 20, '03 04:51:15PM

Ive had a similar (and definately related) problem using my aluminium powerbook g4 1ghz and a linux-pc attached to this model Belkin KVM using a standard Apple Pro Keyboard.

The specific problem I had was that (only in Mac OS) the keyboard would randomly spit out characters into whatever app I happened to be working on. Not a pretty thought when root in an xterm :-) This seemed to happen most frequently when I would use the inverted-t arrow keys.

At any rate, after a call to belkin they gave me a similar workaround as the above post (attach a mouse or keyboard to the KVM's keyboard port, then attach the keyboard you want to use to one of the USB device ports). The tech at Belkin stated that a lot of newer keyboards were exhibiting this problem and to watch their website for a firmware update (im not holding my breath). He also stated that Belkins USB keyboards work find with this configuration (big suprise there...).

The above workaround only seems to break hot-key device switching in the KVM (volume, eject, etc. keys on the keyboard all seem to work fine)

The problem is definately related to the keyboard emulation that the KVM performs. It is interesting that it only seems to affect my Mac and not the Linux PC on the second port.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: jelloman on Oct 21, '03 01:23:39AM

Yeah I've got the same problem with the arrow keys too. I have a G4/867 Quicksilver, but I use a Macally iKey usb keyboard and a Logitech MX700, along with a Belkin Nostromo SpeedPad nd an HP LaserJet 1300 on the device ports. No problems with the mouse or other devices on either the Mac or the PC, but the keyboard has been a bear. The iKey worked fine with the Mac on its own before the KVM (the 2-port SOHO), but since then, the arrow keys result in 2,4,6 and 8 to repeat for about 10 seconds when navigating in fields or documents. Also, I find the SHIFT key will sometimes lock on its own and cause characters to be all caps, along with special charcaters like $ instead of 4. Only way to dislodge it is to keep alternating between SHIFT and CAPS LOCK. Keyboard works fine on the PC side.

Real pain in the butt. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with the problem. I will definitely try rewiring the keyboard to another port next time I'm under my desk, since that's where I have the KVM mounted. I tried talking to Belkin too, all they said was to buy a Belkin keyboard...go figure.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: timb on Oct 21, '03 03:28:36AM

This problem has been around since at least december 2002, I bought the same model for the same reason, limited space, and this even had audio! The belkin techs were morons. I ended up getting a replacement unit, which was still broken. Finally got my money back and got a USB Switchbox. Hooked that to a powered hub and that took care of my keyboard and mouse switching. Lucky for me my Samsung monitor had BNC and VGA ports, so I got a BNC to DVI-A cable, and hooked that to the PC. Buyer beware. Belkin is a cheap company with no regards for the customer. I have a USB video capture cable that belkin has been promising OS X drivers for since 2001. Like the other guy said, don't hold your breath on a firmware update.

-Tim



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: jelloman on Oct 22, '03 03:32:19AM

Well, got under my desk and tried moving the keyboard to any other port other than the keyboard. Most of the time, the mouse would not be recognized in the keyboard port and when anything else was plugged into the keyboard port, the KVM would beep nonstop. In the meantime, i have stopped key repeats so that 2, 4 ,6, and 8's don't repeat nonstop. It still doesn't stop the auto CAPS LOCK from happening.

oh yeah, I forgot to mention, whenever I turn on the Mac, my Superdrive automatically ejects the tray and it closes when i shut down (if it's closed already, it stays closed). Wierd huh?

As far as power draw, i've been able to hook up a bus-powered USB zip drive to the keyboard without issues, so maybe the power theory has some i don't have any other keyboard, but i like this one, because the keys don't feel so soft like the Apple, Microsoft, and Logitech keyboards.

I bought the Belkin SOHO 2-port USB with audio at CompUSA with my employee discount, but I know I won't be recommending it anytime soon to anyone, especially in a Mac/PC environment. If we sold an IOGEAR usb KVM, I would trade mine in for that, as a friend of mine has one that works, and I've verified my keyboard works on it.

I'm gonna be hitting up the Belkin rep at work, but I have a feeling he's just there to sell stuff and probably don't know jack about any tech stuff.

Here's hoping for a firmware fix..better keep my cable handy just in case, if I can find it.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: jelloman on Oct 27, '03 03:59:39AM

I borrowed an HP USB keyboard without any USB ports on it and hoped this would solve the problem, but I still experience the random characters (though not as much) and the autolocking of CAPSLOCK. Verrry annoying. Gonna have to bite the bullet and try a different KVM, as I don't want to have two separate keyboards for two computers.

Has anyone had any luck using a PS2 keybaord with a USB adapter? I've seen keyboard specific ones, but haven't tried it yet.



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: ivanp on Oct 20, '03 08:35:44PM

I had the same problem. I am using the Logitech MX Cordless Keyboard & Mouse Combo with an iBook and a Win2K setup.

In order to get it to work, I plugged a cheap mouse into the keyboard port, (that stopped the incessant beeping), and plugged the keyboard & mouse reciever into the shared mouse port. Funny thing is though, the kb and mouse work fine on the Mac, but on the PC only the kb is recognized. I have a spare mouse plugged into the PC. At least two mice and one kb is better than two kb's...

Hopefully a fix will come out from belkin to allow better keyboard support.

-IP



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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: aMacUzur on Oct 20, '03 09:02:32PM
If you have a monitor attached to both these systems and they're on the same desk, you should have a look at KMremoteControl.
(http://www.derman.com/KMremoteControl1.00/KMrC-Overview.html)

For me, it's eliminated the need for a KVM switch, is easier to use and was cheaper.

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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: chrispar on Oct 21, '03 10:08:41AM

I've taken the advice given here and connected the black keyboard to the KVM keyboard output and the white keyboard to one of the USB devices in the KVM. My Logitech MX500 is connected to the KVM mouse output.

It all seems to work with the exception of keyboard hot-switching. Stiil, progress!

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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: srparker on Mar 14, '04 11:19:31AM

By the way, it appears that the failure may be related to Belkin's SOHO USB KVM (at least in the case of using Natural Keyboards from Microsoft).

If you read their support site, they support ONLY keyboards at are 107 key (I'm not about to count all the buttons on the Wireless Optical Desktop Pro that I want to use for my Macs and my one PC.)

But... Following excellent suggestions in this thread, I plugged a garbage mouse (I have to find a non-optical one so this one will stop blinking at me) into the Keyboard port, and plugged the Keyboard into a USB Hub that's plugged into one of the USB ports.

EVERYTHING works now, including the funky media control buttons, the buttons that open various apps, and I'm happy.

Thanks for providing the solution to a "bug" that Belkin refuses to acknowledge publicly....

Steve

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G5 keyboard fails on certain Belkin Omniview KVM switches
Authored by: peterschwenk on Oct 26, '04 03:40:05PM

I bought a Logitech Elite Keyboard and a Logitech Marble Mouse because the Keyboard that came with my G5 didn't work in the Belkin KVM (same type as original poster). This combination seems to work fine. I haven't encountered any weird characters yet.

The only difference is that I applied the "no keyboard" firmware to the KVM. Come to think of it, I didn't try my G5 keyboard after the firmware update...

Just tried it. Still no good. Anyway, the Logitech combo outlined above works fine so far.

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Mathematical Sciences
University of Delaware



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