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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook System
Just got the new 1.25GHz 15" PB. It's a beauty and I'm really happy with it, but I ran into a strange bug (I think it's a bug...).

I'd close my PowerBook to put it to sleep over night and once in a while, it would stop sleeping (the light on the latch would stop pulsing) and when I'd open it next morning it would look like it was kinda of on - fan spinning, very hot - but the screen would stay black and I had to hold the power key down to shut it down and then restart. Not good.

I found that unchecking the "Wake for network administrator access" option in the "Options" tab (you have to have your PB hooked up to the outlet to see that option) of the "Energy Saver" system preference panel fixed it (unless you need to have it checked, not my case...).
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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: mjones1040 on Oct 02, '03 11:03:48AM

I have noticed a related/similar problem on my iBook after upgrading to 10.2.8. Before that upgrade, there were no problems with sleep mode. Are you running that version of the system?



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: shreddiez on Oct 02, '03 11:43:36AM

Sounds like the 'book is going headless, even when you don't have an external kb and mouse. I noticed this one or twice since 10.2.8



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: richard_k_smith on Oct 02, '03 12:09:58PM

I have the new 15" powerbook and can confirm that it has waking "issues," including:

- not waking at all, and not because is running in the bag or something. just black screen, no response

- waking with a "flutter" -- screen pops up, then goes black, then comes back, then goes blue, then comes back... finally settles down to be always on

The latter is merely an annoyance, and I presume it will be fixed in an upcoming patch/update. The second is really more serious, except that I have found it isn't REALLY dead... here's what I have done:

1) close the lid, wait a bit, open it up again -- awake!

2) close the lid, wait a bit, open it up again, still dead but press the power button briefly and it says "do you really want to shut down your computer?" Cancel that, and proceed.

3) close the lid, wait a bit, open it up and press cmd-alt-esc (as if you are going to kill a running program). It wakes up, you cancel that, and carry on.

4) close the lid, wait a bit, open and press cmd-alt-esc and even though you can't see anything, press enter (i.e., kill whatever has lodged), and you're back in business. Close the kill dialog box (it has killed one of your programs), and carry on.

Worse case scenario is that you have to press and hold the power button, and restart.

One of the wonderful things about OS X and my iBook - the machine I learned to use OSX on - was the "instant on" aspect of the sleep function. Not flickering, no pauses, no failures. I wouldn't go back to the iBook at this point, but I do miss the reliability of the iBook.



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re: Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: huzzam on Oct 02, '03 04:25:23PM

My ibook 500 occasionally has the "flutter" you mentioned. It seems to happen generally if i've plugged or unplugged a peripheral while it was asleep. For example, if i have my audio-out cord plugged in, to listen to the computer through the stereo, then i put it to sleep, and THEN unplug the audio cord. When i wake it back up, it will "flutter." Is that perhaps the problem for you as well?

peter



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re: Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: mumblingmynah on May 25, '05 05:50:47PM

I have had these exact same issues with waking my powerbook. I've also recently realized that it has been refusing to go to sleep--both when closing the lid or by selecting Sleep from the apple menu. Just now I discovered the only way to make it sleep is by unplugging it from the power and then closing the lid. Unplugging and manually selecting sleep will not work. What kind of weirdness is this?



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: miscdebris on Oct 02, '03 12:29:31PM

Well, I've still been using an old 500MHz PowerBook G3 and it, too, experiences issues from time to time with waking from sleep and with waking from sleep while the screen is closed. In fact, I've experienced all of the variations of the sleep problems listed by others here. So perhaps this issue is less hardware dependent and more operating-system dependent. And certainly annoying.



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: parakleta on Oct 07, '03 01:43:39PM

I had the same problem with my Pismo, but it was in a aluminium hardcase when it woke up, and it cooked the processor...

If you have this problem with your mac you should be careful about where you store it when it's sleeping.



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Flutter w/ 1Ghz Ti-book
Authored by: hamarkus on Oct 02, '03 12:42:59PM

On my 1Ghz Ti-book (10.2.6 but also w/earlier versions) I encounter the 'Flutter' effect occasionally (once a week perhaps). It is a two second annoyance, which nevertheless always scares the hell out of me.

The black screen after opening, I have seen only when I put it to sleep with a stuck app (like internet connect).



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: ByronEllis on Oct 02, '03 01:17:06PM

Of course, when this same thing happened to my iBook (random waking up while closed followed by heat and lockup) it turned out to be the logic card going bad---eventually diagnosed by tapping the bottom of the case and watching the screen do interesting things followed up a kernel panic (when the wake-up failed I could occasionally see that the screen was on with the backlight off)



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: Anonymous on Oct 02, '03 01:24:28PM

No errors here on the latest seed of Panther, so there might be some errors in 10.2 regarding the new 15"



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: Bin_jammin on Oct 02, '03 01:43:18PM

I have a Wallstreet 266, and before that had a Wallstreet 233, and I experienced the not waking issue with another unpleasant spin. I'd leave my house with the 'book asleep in the bag, walk around Boston for a while, go to use it, and the battery would be totally discharged, with the 'book hotter than all get out. I don't have the option to wake for admin, but (I don't know why I ever would have checked it) I had the wake if modem detects a ring checked. Just unchecked it and will see how that works out. Yeah, the 'book's old and I'm planning on picking up something newer in the spring, but for now I'm still using it because I'm broke.



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Powerbook latch issues
Authored by: martinx on Oct 02, '03 03:50:03PM

I've found that sometimes I will have an issue with my 15" TiBook waking up or not going to sleep properly when I close it. The reason is that the latch isn't incredibly secure - I have to be careful to close it just right (rather gently) because sometimes if I don't it doesn't actually latch right, and pops back open and wakes up unexpectedly.



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: acalado on Oct 02, '03 07:02:11PM

I had the same problem with my iBook 16MB VRAM and after looking through the console logs found the culprit was the FaxSTF daemon. Uninstalled FaxSTF and my iBook as been waking from sleep with no issues ever since. Thank goodness Mac OS X 10.3 will have built-in faxing so I don't have to rely on that buggy FaxSTF anymore!



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: Mr. X on Oct 04, '03 02:02:04AM

where is that doeamon?

I got the same issue. Wake from sleep while closed, only when plugged in... I'd like to try this fix.



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: deleted_user18 on Oct 03, '03 07:26:12AM

Same with my 12" PB (Early 2003). Wonder if one day it will melt or set something on fire...



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: rmiller021 on Oct 03, '03 10:18:14AM

My PowerBook G4 800 mhz went to sleep and refused to wake up yesterday. I held in the power button, nothing happened so I held it in longer. After a minute I gave up with that. Next I tried my second battery. Nothing. Then I plugged it in. The light on the power adapter came on but still no startup. I finally removed the keyboard and reset the PMU. and it booted the first try. I wonder if 10.2.8 did this?



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: Renigade on Oct 08, '03 04:32:43PM

Integrating 24 (new) iBooks into a school, I found 5 or 6 of them that had the same problem. Just reset the PRAM a couple times (keep holding it til it chimes like 3 or 4 times) and it fixed the problem on the iBooks.



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: tlfeet on Oct 10, '03 03:11:53AM
Have 15"PB 10.2.8 update 6R73, 03 Oct 03, cause kernel panic if I put it to sleep with USB deivces plugged in. I have not had this problem at all until 10.2.8 MFI thread detailed discussion, steps taken My configuration and system detail

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TiB G4 800mhz 512 RAM 40GB HD

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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: nebuli on May 08, '04 10:05:46PM

I Have been having most of the problems mentioned above with a recently purchased lombard G3 400, running panther. i would very much like ot hear from anyone with a solutions to these problems!

regards
Louis Mustill

louis@nebuli.net



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Real wake from sleep issue with G4Ti GHz
Authored by: Zo-1 on May 09, '04 08:54:57PM

First, safest, easiest fix (IMAHO) is, do the old Warm Boot - (Control-Com-Power) -- but please!- make that a boot right into Safe Mode (holding down Com-S) and run "fsck -y" before proceeding. X is very unhappy if you do not.

Have used this with my TiGB countless times, when I find it hasn't really gone to Sleep at all but is in annoyingly active Coma.

It's about the latch. The command Sleep works fine - but close the lid afterwards at your peril. Closing lid to Sleep has always dicey, in G4 books.



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: wpdv on Jun 27, '04 02:33:00AM

Thank you! Thank you! I've been dealing with this annoying problem for months now on my PB G4 1Ghz. Great post. :)



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Potential wake from sleep issue with new 15" PowerBook
Authored by: wpdv on Jun 27, '04 03:05:47AM

Thank you! Thank you! I've been dealing with this annoying problem for months now on my PB G4 1Ghz. Great post. :)



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