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10.3: Fully utilize the new threading features in Mail.app Apps

So we've all heard by now of the new threaded view in Panther's Mail program. But it didn't seem useful to me until I discovered the power of the Command-click.

When viewing one mailbox (say, for instance, your Inbox), you can Command-click on any other mailbox (say, for instance, your Sent folder), and all messages from both mailboxes will be displayed in the main window ... threaded together.

By having both your Inbox and your Sent folders listed together, the threading looks like you'd expect -- your message, the response, your follow-up, the backlash, etc.

An overly simple process to magnify the effectiveness of a new feature.

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10.3: Fully utilize the new threading features in Mail.app
Authored by: restiffbard on Oct 25, '03 04:39:49PM

Ah so. Suddenly threading is 10fold more useful. Thanks.



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10.3: Fully utilize the new threading features in Mail.app
Authored by: monickels on Oct 26, '03 01:04:19AM

You can command-click on multiple mailboxes in Mail.app for 10.2, also, to see their contents in the mail list pane.



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Question concerning Mail.app: outbound-rules?
Authored by: nick on Oct 26, '03 09:36:15AM

do the rules in mail.app finally apply to outgoing mail, too? at the moment i select the latest sent mails and run "apply rules to selected" manually to get my sent mail sorted to the mailboxes of the persons i sent them to.



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10.3: Fully utilize the new threading features in Mail.app
Authored by: da5idonimac on Oct 26, '03 02:46:21PM

how does threading work? does mail.app only thread emails containing "re:"?

it seems like it, which is a little stupid for international users, as for example german email programs often use "AW:" (as in "antwort") instead of "re:".

or am i missing something? lots of threads are not being threaded for me :(



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10.3: Fully utilize the new threading features in Mail.app
Authored by: sandman619 on Oct 26, '03 10:51:46PM

Since Apple claims that Mail can track a thread even if the subject line changes, I'd assume that Mail is using something different than the subject line to differentiate between new and continuing threads.



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No, it's actually using SMTP headers
Authored by: ClassicUser on Oct 27, '03 02:49:57AM
Regarding:
how does threading work? does mail.app only thread emails containing "re:"?
Not at all - since it's agreed that any cross-language responses, or other manipulation of the subject line, would break such a simplistic "grouping" algorithm (note also the usual desire to included "Fwd:" messages, etc. in this same grouping).

The new Mail.app is actually using the "Message-Id", "In-Reply-To", and "References" headers in the email messages, to attempt to relate them. These are added by most SMTP mailers, as a way of indicating exactly what you're looking for: These messages are related to each other by their original message ID.

I don't know what specific problems you're seeing, but I've had very good luck with several emails with COMPLETELY-different subject lines, being (correctly) threaded together. Seems to be very reliable from this end, although apparently YMMV...

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No, it's actually using SMTP headers
Authored by: mactectomy on Oct 27, '03 07:53:16AM

I think this is how the old Netscape threading used to work. The only problem with this method is that often I will just find an old email from someone and reply to it instead of copying and pasting email address. The threader would then think that this unrelated email is part of the original thread (or the user on the other end would think so too). I guess the new menu things in Panther's mail.app obviate my lazy method of sending an email, though.



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No, it's actually using SMTP headers
Authored by: SeanAhern on Nov 03, '03 12:28:01PM

I do that, too. Just be sure to delete the "In-reply-to" header in your response message if you really aren't creatiing a continuation of the thread.

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-Sean



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Threading even better
Authored by: wackazong on Nov 10, '03 05:36:17AM

Hi!

Is there any way to MANUALLY add a mail to an existing thread? This would make threading really useful. come on, somebody has to have an idea! How about a mail plugin that does just that?

ALEXander.



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Threading even better
Authored by: dpmorri on Nov 21, '03 09:40:30AM

I'd love to know how to do this as well...a lot of my threads end up not having automatic "reply" emails in them, so they are not being caught by Mail's auto-threader



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