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If, like me, you've been looking for a way to route Rendezvous information between two networks, you should check out mTunnel.There's also an excellent article on setting it up on afp548.com.

We installed the software on one machine on each network and configured a tunnel. Now users on both networks can browse the others' file servers, etc. The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the Rendezvous part of iChatAV - can anyone suggest why this doesn't work?
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Authored by: lukeah on Jul 24, '03 01:57:37PM

Huh. Well that's just plain odd.

I followed the directions, and set up bridging between our two office networks over a dedicated p2p t-1. Configuration went fine. Including (after a few minutes of wait time) iChat rendezvous messaging. But, I can't print to the HP 5100 that we have over in the other office; even though I can see it safari's bookmarks.



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Authored by: Anonymous on Jul 25, '03 09:23:37AM

...interesting that you got iChat rendezvous messaging to work - as this didnt work for us.
Did you do anything differently from the AFP548 instructions to get this working?



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Authored by: lukeah on Jul 25, '03 12:29:04PM

Nope. Not that I saw.



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Authored by: Anonymous on Jul 25, '03 11:46:01PM

The key here is iChatAV, which wasn't out when I wrote the article.

The old version of iChat had a bug in it that prevented it from registering machines that weren't on it's subnet, even though it could see them. iChatAV fixed that.

Joel



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Authored by: saltydog4791 on Jul 24, '03 03:01:47PM

does anyone out there now how to set this up when nat is involved? I would love to use this from my work to my home machine, but both are behind nat. Any ideas? I am a little green when it comes to some of this stuff.

saltydog4791



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Authored by: etrepum on Jul 24, '03 05:25:48PM
On our network, which uses an OpenBSD 3.3 box with a whole lot of ethernet ports, I use the following pf rules to bridge rendezvous between the wireless and wired LANs:
pass in on $if_trusted dup-to $if_wlan inet proto udp from any to 224.0.0.25
1 port = 5353
pass in on $if_wlan dup-to $if_trusted inet proto udp from any to 224.0.0.25
1 port = 5353
Note that this only works if $if_trusted and $if_wlan are in promiscuous mode.. which unfortunately ifconfig won't do for you, but snort, tcpdump, or a program like this one can do that for you.

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Authored by: Darkshadow on Jul 24, '03 08:37:44PM

As an alternative, you can download a freeware program called Rendezvous Beacon. It's available at http://www.chaoticsoftware.com/ProductPages/RendezvousBeacon.html

You can use this to "publish" your own Rendezvous services, or use it to act as a proxy for remote Rendezvous computers.

You may or may not be able to use it for iChatAV - I haven't ever tried, so I don't know.



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Authored by: MtnBiker on Jul 24, '03 10:26:46PM

Is this doing the same thing as the mTunnel procedure described. Does this open Rendezvous up to everyone? Or do you select who can get in? What about people on dynamic addresses such as with DSL Earthlink? This is the case for the person I want to have a connection with. My end is a fixed IP.

thanks

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Hermosa Beach, CA USA



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Authored by: Anonymous on Jul 25, '03 09:31:21AM

Rendezvous Beacon is a very useful piece of software but as far as I'm aware, it cannot automatically publish rendezvous services from one network on another.
What it can do is make non-rendezvous-savvy services available through rendezvous.



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Authored by: Darkshadow on Jul 25, '03 10:39:34AM

Ah, but you can. At the bottom, you'll see a checkbox that says "Enable Host Proxy", then two boxes for a host name and IP address. What you do is put in the remote computer's host name (if it has one, i.e. macosxhints.com) and press the Lookup Host button, or manually enter an IP address (definitely don't try adding in a host name if the computer doesn't have a valid host name - it won't work).

The downside to that is that you'll need to know the host name or IP address.

Also, for iChat, you'd need to find the ports that it uses - I'm not sure what they are (perhaps it's port 5353 like in the above article, but I'm not sure, as I haven't ever tried with iChat).

Oh, and I forgot to note in my first post that you have to keep Rendezvous Beacon running for you to be able to do this - once you quit it, the services are gone, too. You may also have to restart any apps that would be picking up the new Rendezvous services you enabled.



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Authored by: Anonymous on Jul 25, '03 10:54:05AM

I think the rendevous Beacon Host proxy will not allow new rendezvous services on one network to be automatically published on another.
An example:
Network 192.168.1.0 has machines A, B and C all of which are publishing a rendezvous service (e.g. web, Itunes etc.)
Network 192.168.0.0 cannot see rendezvous services of A B and C.
Sure, Rendezvous Beacon can be manually set up to proxy A, B and C so that their services appear on 192.168.0.0 network. This works great.
But if a mchine D on the first network suddenly starts publishing a Rendevous service, it will not be visible unless it is manually added to Rendevous Beacon.
With mTunnel the process is automatic and is bidirectional -I think this gives it a big advantage.
...However, I havent used Rendevous beacon much, so correct me if I'm wrong!!



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Authored by: tanvach on Jan 25, '04 10:46:28AM

It's weird that I have to set TTL to 255 to get the tunneling to work properly. Other wise it does what it does quite well.

Is there a way to save the tunnel settings so everytime I restart mTunnel I don't have to re-input all the details again?



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Authored by: beverly on Jan 25, '04 02:42:38PM

You only need to increase the TTL to tunnel Rendezvous services so that they can be seen under Panther, not for Jaguar. Also, you don't need to increase it all the way to 255. My observations are that it should be increased to the actual number of hops that the tunneled packet would have gone through between the two ends of the tunnel.



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Authored by: fcote on Mar 16, '04 01:15:57AM

Tell me, mTunnel work for you with Mac OS X 10.3.3? I got this error when I run it: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: cdt/app/mTunnel/Main". I don't know what to do :(



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Authored by: kf6auf on Mar 18, '04 01:15:11AM

I had this problem earlier today. Your HOME should be set to the location of the executable. Mine is /home/scott/mTunnel/

I "don't have it working yet" but hopefully I can figure it out tomorrow (TTY=255 might help). The really confusing thing is that we turned off the tunnel and there appears to be a one way tunnel that is not visible. No idea how long it's been there or if it's us. If anyone know anything about 1-way tunneling it would be nice.



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