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Energy Saver, 10.2.4, backups, and FireWire System

I've had problems with my TiBook 400 (384MB RAM) and automatic sleep ever since 10.1.1 (and maybe before that, but I just didn't notice). See this hint that I posted before for the history. After a long while, I finally figured out what was killing my timeout-to-sleep feature: burning a CD with my firewire CD-RW (Yamaha 20x10x40). Fresh off a restart, sleep would come just fine. Once I burned a CD (iTunes or Retrospect incremental backup), I'd have an insomniac TiBook. But when 10.2.4 arrived, all my problems were solved!!! Burn a CD, and it'll time out to sleep just fine. Despite some "it's about damn time" grumbling, I was very happy.

But then I discovered a new problem. If I am running a backup, and it takes long enough for the screen to dim (not go black), then the CD burner stops responding at that point! Backup progress comes to a halt, and Retrospect just keeps on waiting and waiting to hear from the burner. I tell it to stop the backup, and it waits forever for the burner to close the session. Unplug the firewire cable, and Retrospect awakens from its trance. My solution (until this bug gets fixed) is to use SleepLess to keep Energy Saver from kicking in during long backup sessions.

I've told Apple about this problem, and I have no idea if burning from some other app, or using a different FireWire device will cause the same problem. Any other app burns the CD at max speed, which doesn't give Energy Saver enough time to kick in. Retrospect seems to burn at about 10x for me.

I hope this helps someone....

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Energy Saver, 10.2.4, backups, and FireWire
Authored by: allenhuffman on Feb 25, '03 12:29:33PM

I had the opposite problem. My TiBook 400 (original model) slept just fine, but my iLamp did not. I soon found out I had to turn off File Sharing on the iLamp to make it sleep. Then, after an upgrade sometime in the past few months, the problem reversed. The iLamp would sleep even with file sharing on (yay bug fix!) but now my TiBook NEVER sleeps.

If I exit out from my account, it WILL sleep from the login screen, but not if I am logged in. This is odd, 'cause when I bought Jaguar I did a total format and install -- clean -- of Jag. I can't think of anything legacy that would be making it not work. Very annoying.

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Energy Saver, 10.2.4, backups, and FireWire
Authored by: lamont on Feb 25, '03 07:37:49PM

You just may have helped me.
I use Retrospect Express to backup to an Iomega Peerless, since installing 10.2.4 I have had the process stall during long backups (i.e. recycle backups).
I usually restart and then rebuild the backup catalogue then try again.
Perhaps I should wait a bit longer to see if the"beach ball of death" eventually stops spinning and the Peerless reactivates?



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Energy Saver, 10.2.4, backups, and FireWire
Authored by: lamont on Feb 25, '03 07:58:36PM

You just may have helped me.
I use Retrospect Express to backup to an Iomega Peerless, since installing 10.2.4 I have had the process stall during long backups (i.e. recycle backups).
I usually restart and then rebuild the backup catalogue then try again.
Perhaps I should wait a bit longer to see if the"beach ball of death" eventually stops spinning and the Peerless reactivates?



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Energy Saver, 10.2.4, backups, and FireWire
Authored by: dittrich on Feb 25, '03 08:39:10PM

Hmm, I never got the spinning beach ball. Just the regular Retrospect "turning gears" busy cursor. You might be seeing a different problem...?

Also, once it got into this stalled mode, no amount of waiting seemed to help. Even pressing the "Stop" button in Retrospect wouldn't help because it would then try to close the session on the CD burner, so it would stall there instead because it was still unable to communicate with the burner. Aside from force-quitting Retrospect, my only way out was to pull the FireWire plug.

Matt



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