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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes Reviews
My wife wanted a small MP3 player for running, but getting one compatible with OS X is a big problem. Many players simply ignore the Mac, and those that don't seem to only support OS 9 at best. However we eventually found the Creative MuVo. It's USP [robg: Unique Selling Proposition?] is that it's an MP3 player and a storage class USB flash drive (so even if you don't use it as a player...). Although designed to be loaded via Windows Explorer, you can load files by dragging them from an iTunes playlist. The MuVo remenbers the playlist order and you're off and running, literally.

But, internally it appears to be DOS formatted so, it won't always accept filenames that are legal in OSX (like use of the "?" character) so you might have to clean up the filenames by editing them in iTunes. It won't tell you have a problem it jus won't load.

[robg adds: You can find a list of "iTunes aware" MP3 players (along with CD burners) on Apple's Playback Compatibility page.]

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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: CaptCosmic on Feb 21, '03 11:14:35AM

I believe USP means Unique Selling Point. At least, that's the definition that makes the most sense to me.

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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: mervTormel on Feb 21, '03 02:20:07PM

From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02):

unique sales point

<product> (USP) A feature that the salesman hopes will
convince you to buy his product instead of another.



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: bidmead on Feb 22, '03 04:19:57AM

And it's not exactly unique in this case. Archos do a number of machines that work fine as USB Disk class attachments with the Mac -- I have the Archos Recorder here, which can also record MP3s, from analogue or digital input.

The advantage over the iPod, of course, is that these machines don't even attempt DRM.

Check out http://www.archos.com.

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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: MrWizard on Feb 21, '03 03:59:40PM

What was wrong with an iPod?



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: jtomalley on Oct 19, '03 01:41:49PM

iPods are too bloody expensive.



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: acm5fan on Feb 21, '03 05:45:26PM

dude buy an irock. reviews on slashdot rate it very well, and it has drivers to work with itunes. a great mp3 player for 50-$100.



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: robarmo on Feb 21, '03 07:23:43PM

I`ve also had a problem with my MP3's not working with a PC due to
illegal characters in the file names. So far I`ve found the following
characters to be responsible ? * / \ " < > |
Does this list appear to be
correct? Are there any other characters I should avoid using?

Thanks.



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: ThreeDayMonk on May 15, '03 05:48:40AM

The easy way to find out is to try typing an illegal filename on a Windows machine. It helpfully informs you that:

A filename cannot contain any of the following characters:
\ / : * ? " < > |



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: DougAdams on Feb 22, '03 06:49:23AM
Use AppleScripts to tidy MP3 track names and filenames before burning to an MP3-CD. We have many to choose from.

Doug
Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes

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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: loopyzort on May 14, '03 02:21:21PM

Sorry to trash a good natured post, but:
- I bought the muvo as a last resort because I couldn't a list of flash memory OS X compatible players anywhere find anywhere (including the dead link posted in this thread)
- I'm running iTunes 4 and OS 10.2.6, upgraded the firmware and reformatted the Muvo itself
- The muvo is junk with a Mac, dragging from an iTunes playlist seems to work, until you play the tracks and hear they're all mixed together and cut between each other (unless I'm missing something or bought a busted muvo)
- Dragging from the Finder directly to the Muvo will work, but there is no way to preserve file order unless you rename the files themselves

Please prove me wrong, or help me out, I bought this thing cause I wanted a light flash mp3 player to take running (iPod shouldn't go through such jolting), and now it looks like I'll have to sell it to a PC user.

thanks, loopyzort



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MP3 player with iTunes (not-iPod compatible with iTunes)
Authored by: husky on Mar 23, '04 02:40:08PM

The iTunes compability page has mysteriously disappeared from Apple's iTunes pages. There used to be a page that listed what MP3 player or portable device would work with iTunes, but this has been replaced by a page on burning to compatible CDR drives. Only mention of iPod on the main Apple pages

I eventually found this Apple support article about players
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93548

and for Win (the compatibility list is MUCH shorter)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93377

MP3 device manufacturers: Why not advertise that you are iTunes compatible?



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Using a PC-only hardware MP3 player with iTunes
Authored by: vincejr on Jun 22, '04 03:24:59PM

Yes, you can use a MuVo with iTunes, I do it all the time. I have no problem dragging and dropping files from my library in itunes to the MuVo, it appears just like an iPod! I'm using 10.2.8 w/iTunes 4.6.

Also, files typically play on the MuVo in the order in which they were copied to it....(pretty sure about this).... Anyways, if you switch to Column view in the finder (not list or icon) and copy your files to the Muvo (instead of using itunes) then the order you have there in that view will be preserved on the muvo. This is typically alphabetical order. This trick has been around for a long time, the column view handles the order of the copy exactly as you see it... this applies to every copy or move operation in the finder.

vince



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