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InDesign text trapping glitch in EPS output files Apps
When saving out InDesign documents as EPS files for sending to the bureau, I was finding that some text was 'bolding' as if the trap was incorrect. After much testing, it appears that InDesign, when saving out as an EPS, will 'outline' text that is too close to a graphic. But it also keeps the remaining text within the EPS as text, thereby causing the bolding effect. The workaround is to merely put the text on a layer above the graphic.

[Editor's note: Please see the comments for what's seems to be a solid explanation of the behavior described above...]
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Text boxes and graphics
Authored by: pairaka on Dec 06, '02 09:35:58PM

It's possible that InDesign is doing what Quark does when you have text in a box with a background set to \"none\" and have that box in front of a picture box: It will automatically trap the text in the text box. We had this happen several times when sending files out for film for a letterhead and envelope: The text would come back looking bold when it wasn\'t set as bold in the file. We found something in the QuickStart book on Quark 5.0 that mentioned this behavior and that fixed the problem.



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It's a Bug in InDesign
Authored by: CyborgSam on Dec 07, '02 01:16:09AM

InDesign rasterizes type that is close to a graphic on the same layer. This is especially problematic with text wrapping, text near the graphic's path get rasterized.

The solution is correct: put text on another layer. Unfortunately, this doesn't work if you need the text to wrap around a complex shaped graphic. In one case I made a separate path to wrap the text to and made sure it was a tad bigger than the graphic's path.



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Utter Nonsense: There is no such
Authored by: Sandee Cohen on Dec 07, '02 06:17:12AM

I have read the comments about a supposed "bug" in InDesign. these comments are total nonsense. I have covered them as they occurred.

> It appears that InDesign, when saving
> out as an EPS, will 'outline' text that is too close to a graphic. But
> it also keeps the remaining text within the EPS as text, thereby
> causing the bolding effect. The workaround is to merely put the text on
> a layer above the graphic.

The person has described the problem incorrectly. InDesign does not
automatically outline all text next to a graphic. That is complete nonsense!

InDesign MAY outline text that is set with a transparency or has a
transparency effect near it.

And in that case, yes, putting the graphic on a layer above any transparency
will avoid the problem. However, it would be better if the person creating
the ID file understood more about the flattener settings rather than just
this one way to work. After all, what if you do want text to be part of the
transparency.

> It's possible that InDesign is doing what Quark does . . .

I assure you that whatever InDesign is doing it is NOT doing what Quark does
with boxes with background color set to None. The above information has
nothing to do with InDesign. Ignore it.

> InDesign rasterizes type that is close to a graphic on the same layer.
> This is especially problematic with text wrapping, text near the
> graphic's path get rasterized.
> The solution is correct: put text on another layer. Unfortunately, this
> doesn't work if you need the text to wrap around a complex shaped
> graphic. In one case I made a separate path to wrap the text to and
> made sure it was a tad bigger than the graphic's path.

The person above speaks with such authority I am almost ready to believe
him. But once again, this is someone who doesn't understand what they are
talking about. InDesign does not rasterize type that is close to a graphic
unless there is some sort of transparency effect involved. If there is no
transparency, then you can jam type anywhere you want.

And of course, text wrapping should have no problems if there is no
transparency.

Ahhh, but if there is transparency? Well then, once again, someone needs to
read up on the flattener settings.

Finally, the person says that "this [putting text on a higher layer] doesn't
work if you need the text to wrap around a complex shaped graphic.

Nonsense again. Obviously this person is thinking like a Quarker, or has
never used InDesign. Unlike QuarkXPress, you can put text ABOVE a graphic
and the graphic will still cause the text to wrap. You don't have to have
the graphic above the text.

Hope this all helps.



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Utter Nonsense: There is no such
Authored by: Roel on Jul 06, '05 10:21:24AM

I've got this problem too but it's not fixed if i put the text in an other layer. The image is half under the text and the text is half bold. where the imagebox starts the text gets bold. ?? If i create outlines from the text the entire text gets bold. Anyone got a solution?
Thanx
Roel



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different InDesign EPS export bug
Authored by: SimonDorfman.com on Dec 07, '02 11:51:58AM

When I export to EPS, all instances of apostrophe (') are missing. :(
Has anyone else had this problem?



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different InDesign EPS export bug
Authored by: macgizmo on Dec 07, '02 12:01:40PM

Sounds like a font problem... turn off Font Subsetting, it may help.



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Transparency?
Authored by: percy on Dec 08, '02 05:40:48PM

I think this is may be a knows problem. I remember reading something about a situation when text had to be placed on a layer above transparency to print correctly. Could this be the case here?



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InDesign text trapping glitch in EPS output files
Authored by: Roel on Jul 06, '05 10:23:16AM

I've got this problem too but it's not fixed if i put the text in an other layer. The image is half under the text and the text is half bold. where the imagebox starts the text gets bold. ?? If i create outlines from the text the entire text gets bold. Anyone got a solution?
Thanx
Roel



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InDesign text trapping glitch in EPS output files
Authored by: westframe on Jun 12, '10 06:35:20AM

I have the same problem exporting from CS4 Indesign to PDF, with SOME pages containing a Photoshop image file with transparancy in the original PSD file...

When I delete the PSD image from the page and replace it with a flattened JPG version, the text exports fine!

So it must be a bug with random pages... (other pages seem fine).

hmmm.... any solutions?



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