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A recent hint suggested using drag and drop to copy a piece of code on a web page into a blank TextEdit document. OK, so you have to open TextEdit, arrange your windows so you can drag between them, etc...

When using a Cocoa app, why not just select the text you want to copy, then select "Services -> TextEdit -> Open Selection"? TextEdit will launch and a new document will be created with your selection. Services work in any Cocoa app, but unfortunately, not with Carbon - a big problem, since the vast majority of apps are Carbon, including IE and Office.

[Editor's note: Services in Carbon applications are now technically possible, I believe. I had thought BBEdit was one of those apps, but that may not be correct...]
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Drag and Drop text
Authored by: Miga on Jun 08, '02 04:38:27PM

With Mac OS X.1.5 drag and drop works even with Classic applications, at least for me, when under Classic environment.

I've just tried it between Internet Explorer 5.1 (OS X version) and Word 98, and between Alpha 7.5 and TextEdit, between BBEdit Lite 6.1.2 and Word 98, etc...



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Authored by: bhines on Jun 08, '02 06:09:08PM

If by "now technically possible", you mean since last October, sure. It's been possible since 10.1. Developers are just lazy.

BBEdit definitely supports them.

C'mon folks...



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Technically possible...
Authored by: robg on Jun 08, '02 06:59:24PM

That's exactly what I meant -- it's technically possible, but basically never seen. I didn't bother to go into when it became available, just that they were now available. My demo version of BBEdit 6.52, which is supposedly identical to the paid-for version, does not seem to do services - so that's why I wrote "I thought...". In checking their site now, the only reference I see to services is "Integrated spelling checker -and- Word Services spellchecker support", which does not sound like true Services support to me. The "Services" menu doesn't show any choices whatsoever, as with all the rest of my Carbon apps - does the full version somehow differ in this regard?

So I meant what I wrote - it's technically possible, and I thought BBEdit supported it, but it doesn't seem to work in the version that I have.

-rob.



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Technically possible...
Authored by: echo on Jun 08, '02 10:37:51PM

My paid version of BBEdit 6.5.2 has full functional services menu.



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Technically possible...
Authored by: theRegent on Jun 09, '02 12:06:20AM
It looks like we may be talking at cross purposes, here... the clip below is from the BBEdit "What's New in 6.5?" file:
On Mac OS X 10.1, BBEdit can make text in open documents available to other applications through the Services menu. (OS limitations currently prevent BBEdit from making its own services visible on the Services menu.)
Is this information out-of-date? With my install (10.1.5) the services menu does appear in BBEdit, and in fact works better than many applications, BBEdit's services (whatever they may be) don't show up in other applications. Do I need to poke at something with a digital stick to make that happen, or is it just not a reality yet?

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Technically possible...
Authored by: echo on Jun 09, '02 02:38:53PM

"With my install (10.1.5) the services menu does appear in BBEdit, and in fact works better than many applications, BBEdit's services (whatever they may be) don't show up in other applications."

Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks for the clarification.



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Don't forget...
Authored by: ebow on Jun 10, '02 09:36:21AM

If either of your apps doesn't support services:

If you don't want to rearrange your browser and text editor windows to allow direct dragging, just drag the text to the desktop, switch to the text editor, and then drag the clipping to the blank document. Works like a charm. I just wish you could select parts of the clipping, when viewing it in the Finder.

Of course, there's always Copy & Paste. These seem almost shunned in the face of text dragging, but they work, especially when there's no target (including desktop) to drag to.



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